Co-education ban to be canceled?

Posted by Mark

I just read on Zawya that the parliament might soon scrap the coeducation ban. That would mean both genders will continue to attend school and university together but I am also guessing this means the walls that currently divide the guys and girls in some university classes will also be removed. This is one proposal I’m hoping will get passed. [Link]


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  1. d'fine says:

    BEST news in a long time. Maybe the youth can stop chasing girls on the gulf road?

  2. Chess says:

    It won’t pass.

  3. sarah says:

    Well hopefully it will Chess, but I think that schools should be able to choose whether they want to maintain the segregation policy or not. Let the students choose which type of school they want to attend.

    • Saeed says:

      I agree with you on let students choose !

      Women can’t go to streets and walk safely because of stupid boys always making troubles and now Women won’t be able to go to schools and will get troubled by bad boys. co-ed sucks !

      • st. p says:

        Girls don’t get troubled by boys at school in just about everywhere else in the world.
        It has nothing to do with co-ed v single-sex.
        It has everything to do with the culture of the society they are living in.

      • TweeZ says:

        you are a “boy” right?

        • sarah says:

          A valuabe point is that when these students enter the workforce, the workforce will be co-ed and they (women) will compete for positions with other men. The outside world is not co-ed, so they should not be or should be able to be given a choice in colleges to choose whether they want to be in a co-ed environment which will prepare them more for a co-ed work environment or choose to be segregated and not prepared for a co-ed work environment.

          • sarah says:

            *valuable – Good Morning! AND the outside world is mainly co-ed, so they should be given a chance to interact at the college level.

  4. Dr John Hayes says:

    At GUST there are plans for “some” higher level courses to be coed this fall and the university will provide portable clear dividers for separation. This is progress. The result should be positive socially, educationally and economically in many ways — better use of faculty, classrooms, etc. Happy to see this advancement. We have some outstanding male and female students who can learn from each other. … When the student is ready the teacher appears!

  5. Qutaiba says:

    Kuwait University are not segregating females from males. Only high density classes (200 – 400+)have sections for females and sections for males. Higher level classes are not segregated. Students share the same classroom but girls set on one side and guys sit on the other side (but this was happening naturally before the coeducation ban rule by the Islamist parliament).
    Also i thought that private schools (like Bayan, ASK,…) are coeducation.

    • Chris says:

      I remember in school this was like a default “trend”. Half and Half like exactly split in the center lol

      Funny thing is, the teachers wouldn’t even say a word, its just like fixed into your head somehow..

    • aaa says:

      They were trying to pass laws to get private schools to segregate, some of them already have.

  6. adam (apparently the fake one) says:

    SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT

  7. Aziz says:

    At AUK only 100 level classes are segregated, and will no longer be starting this fall semester. Personally I find it much better with girls in the class. I graduated from a private mixed school and the concept of segregation was very weird to be honest. I am happy to see that the government is finally taking a step forward, hopefully a law will pass to stop censorship too!

  8. neoark25 says:

    It is very good in terms of some male unable to continue studying have to delay their own course plans because a subject is available only for female section, same goes opposite, this might help alot in term of getting in courses.

    on the other hand, if classes has females on side and males on other side would be perfect, as well as nowadays females and males are actually more closer to social network, so the idea to separate them kinda fails when there are more than one way to talk to each other.

    Lets hope there is no DRAMA comes out of it! :p

  9. DrQ80 says:

    Co-Ed ban is the most ridiculous thing Ive heard of. Seriously, seriously 3rd world.

    I mean, how about giving people the choice? If you dont wanna hang out with guys, fair enough, go hang out with your girlfriends elsewhere, but forcing a silly wall and making people feel like total weirdos is just pathetic.

    With regards to boys chasing girls, well thats basically down to culture and how they were raised. Co-ed education might at least get people to chill out a little bit more.

  10. Beemo says:

    “and KD4.5 billion for 143 million men under insurance.”

    Wow, the population in Kuwait sure has boomed.

  11. Abdullah says:

    I could right a full paper with social and scientific reasons why lifting the ban (I don’t like calling it a ban since it’s natural) would make many troubles and fixing none.
    But that’s NOT the reason behind it, it is corrupted parlaman, and they are trying to force some kind of political stuff.
    The people that want to pass this law is the same people who wish to allow alkohol and discos.

    • zaydoun says:

      Please don’t hold back.. We eagerly await your social scientific paper!

    • me says:

      I suggest that you should first learn how to “right”

    • D. says:

      Natural? Since when are human made laws to cover conduct in human made structures to teach human learned and made things “natural”?

      • D. says:

        Oh, and I am also VERY interested in those reasons (and your definition of “science”). I wonder how many of them have to do with the belief that the poor boys just can’t focus with all those girls around.

        • Sheila says:

          and that the earth is flat….

        • Abdullah says:

          I don’t stare at girls, even when I talk to a girl (it happens everywhere) I just don’t stare and I don’t make eye-contact, I think you will be glade if I told you I’m not assuming everyone is like a wolf trying to get a sheep, I assume everyone is like me (Yes I said that).
          for those scientific reasons you asked for, girls effect the average of the class which means cancelation of curves because simply the average is “high”, and for your knowledge, girls work against each other’s, boy’s work with each other, like what happened when I want to pick up the solution of a homework from the copy center, couldn’t find it that day and why? some girls want to the semester guide and asked him to remove it, I didn’t do my homework that day.
          *No one with them have to do with the belief that poor boys can’t focus.

          • D. says:

            Lol.

            Really? Girls affect the average in every class? Somehow I don’t buy it.

            “Girls work against each other and boys work with each other”? Not a fact. Not science. “This girl did something once” tells us nothing about why a particular thing happened or how likely it is to happen. Are you seriously using anecdotal evidence here? Let me try using your logic: Men are stupid because this guy in the comment section of a blog uses profoundly flawed logic and tries to pass off his personal beliefs as scientific truths.
            I trust you can see exactly what was wrong with what I just said and how I tried to prove it.

  12. vampire says:

    i was affected by this stupid law!
    there were no section for boys,, only gals! how the hell could i finish my courses!!!

  13. Klay says:

    Well I hope not…

    Because… read the following:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/mar/18/secondary-schools-girls-gcse-results

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/jan/08/girls-schools-better-risk-taking

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2008/apr/27/schools.uk

    Also note the following:
    A systematic review published in 2005 covering 2221 studies was commissioned by the US Department of Education entitled Single-sex versus coeducational schooling: A systematic review.

    Although the study “found that the results of studies on the effects of single-sex schooling “are equivocal.”

    The quantitative data itself “finds positive results are three to four times more likely to be found for single sex schools than for coeducational schools in the same study for both academic achievement and socio-emotional development,” said Cornelius Riordan, one of the directors of the research.

    Furthermore;
    n 2008, the US government sponsored another study, Early Implementation of Public Single-Sex Schools: Perceptions and Characteristics, which listed the benefits of single-sex schools : (1) Decreases distractions in learning, (2) Reduces student behavior problems, (3) Provides more leadership opportunities, (4) Promotes a sense of community among students and staff, (5) Improves student self-esteem, (6) Addresses unique learning styles and interests of boys or girls, (7) Decreases sex bias in teacher-student interactions, (8) Improves student achievement, (9) Decreases the academic problems of low achieving students, (10) Reduces sexual harassment among students, (11) Provides more positive student role models, (12) Allows for more opportunities to provide social and moral guidance, (13) Provides choice in public education.

    Sources: wikipedia and Guardian.

    So what reasons would be to argue for having mixed classes? Scientifically speaking, and not emotionally “desiring”.

    PS: this not a liberal parliament, hardly liberal :)

    • Klay says:

      Another recent study:

      In January 2012, a study of the University of Pennsylvania was published, involving a randomized experiment, considered the experiment with the highest level of scientific evidence. The data comes from schools in Korea, where a law was passed randomly assigning students to schools in their district. The study by Park, Berhman and Choi titled Causal Effects of Single-Sex Schools on College Entrance Exams and College Attendance: Random Assignment in Seoul High Schools concluded that ““Attending all-boys schools or all-girls schools rather than attending coeducational schools is significantly associated with higher average scores.”

      source: wikipedia

      • mary says:

        @Klay – I went to an all-girls high school in the US and this study is true, however, we are discussing college level here. Colleges prepare you for the workforce by giving you the foundational skills to enter the workforce where men and women work together. High schools prepare students for college, not the workforce, so this initiative does not affect co-education in private schools. Building walls between genders at the university levels hinders the students productivity level, but bottom-line is that ‘governments’ should not be implementing these laws, it should be up to the colleges to incorporate this policy due to the cultural aspects of this society and students should be able to choose which college to attend. Kuwait has FAR more pressing issues that Parliament should be discussing, like a new airport and metro, not segregation in schools, that once again, hinders future generations. Are the youth of this nation ignored in government policy in general, maybe the youth should discuss their future in Kuwait and the society that they will now inherit.

      • me says:

        You’re right. Segregation works. Or better: let’s neuter all students that way they will get even higher scores!

      • lolguy says:

        I feel schools have more to do with just academics and higher grades. They basically prepare students to face the real world. It will be pointless if you churn out a bunch of nerds who are not able to interact normally with the people around them, for example the character of Raj Koothrappali from the Big Bang Theory.

    • zaydoun says:

      Whatever the studies say… single sex or segregated schools and universities should be a CHOICE, and not ENFORCED ON THE ENTIRE POPULATION!!!

    • D. says:

      The problem, Klay, is that gender segregation does absolutely nothing to fix the underlying issues here. We know that boys don’t do as well in English classes if there are more girls in the class, but it’s not simply because girls exist (I know the studies offer explanations, but the way these articles are written tend to simplify things). For example, the decrease in sexual harassment? All that says to me is that there is a sexual harassment problem in general. Taking away the primary targets of harassment does nothing to change the fact that some people are harassers who will just do it off school grounds. The proper way to decrease sexual harassment is to teach people about respect, what constitutes harassment, etc. and to take proper action when there is an issue instead of sweeping it aside. That would result in a REAL decrease in sexual harassment, rather than a displacement. The studies as to why girls perform better in all-girls’ schools cite sexism as the issue. What are we really solving by separating girls and boys this way? It won’t improve sexist attitudes. They will still encounter them outside of school, whether in the workplace or in social settings.

      That said, we haven’t seen any of these studies in full so we don’t have that much to go on. Does the systematic review you mentioned take into consideration the quality of the studies here? It’s probably not all that skewed (if at all) with such a large amount, but that’s not a guarantee. Terms like “improvement”and “decrease” here are vague. Improved/decreased by how much? Significant or insignificant?

  14. Bader says:

    This will only work if they start the process with the new generation. Kids that started kindergarten this year are the ones who should move into coed schools. If they suddenly lift the ban all hell will break loose and it wont fly.

  15. lahdiah says:

    Most ridiculous law I’ve ever heard of- outside of the public school system there’s been co-education at private school KG- Yr 12 for years….

  16. Jake says:

    I’m glad I got out of the system before things take a turn for the worse. Now I’ll just sit back and watch what little value our education system has get thrown out the window.

    It’ll become a circus in a few years. just you watch.

    and for whom ever reads this comment and disagrees, please, please remember this in a few years: “I TOLD YOU SO”

  17. fuzz37 says:

    From time to time I check this site for updates on the country I left back in 08. I’m so happy that I’m only exposed to Kuwait for 2 months a year.

    This shit is a monty python skit. Its hilarious what we are worrying about in 2013.

  18. Maz says:

    The whole point is that segregated education should always be a CHOICE for the parents/students. I will not like my future child to develop and be educated in a segregated school, possibly with segregated teachers as well.

    The point of education is to allow a child to know how to function in real life; and what’s segregation teaching our society? (which is already a bit distant to start with).

    Besides that, the most important aspect of co-education is that genders WILL LEARN to respect each other’s boundaries.

    Some might argue that segregation is what Islam calls for. When in fact nothing about Islam is segregated, and it does not call for segregation to be enforced (by people). The Islamist N.A. we had for a while used Islam as a means of gaining popularity and votes. For a point of time, recently, if someone mentions Islam, everyone nods in silence. People seem to forget that Kuwait is a country of Laws and a constitution, where Islam is only considered the national religion and is considered a “source” for making laws.


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