Back in October, an English school got a lot of heat when they refused to hire a teacher unless she took her hijab off. You would think other schools would have learned from that incident but doesn’t look like that happened.
The blog Life in Kuwait just posted a number of screenshots of a conversation she had with a school in Kuwait she was applying to that kept highlighting the fact that if she wanted to work there, she shouldn’t wear a hijab.
I can’t get over how bizarre it is for a school in Kuwait to make such a request. Check out the whole conversation on the Life in Kuwait blog [Here]
82 replies on “I hope you don’t wear hijab”
I thought she applying in a western country. But this stuff here, that is weird. She can sue.
Well maybe the owner of this school probably had a rough time being forced to wear Hijabs by her family/men. She probably doesn’t want kids to feel that they “need” to wear it.
Removing the religious aspect of it aside.
Firms have dress codes.
If we say no to this, we need to say no to suits/ties/uniforms that other firms apply on most of us.
how can you remove the religious aspect of it aside? that’s like having a discussion on the pope while “removing the religious aspect of it aside”.
If dress codes discriminate against people of certain faith, for no reason other than to discriminate against people of said faith, they should not exist. if they do exist, we should not use them as excuese
So it is only wrong when muslims are asked to remove it but when non muslims are told they have to wear the headscarf then that is ok, and there is no discrimination. If this is their dress code then it should be respected. If she does not like it she can work for one of the nursaries where they force women to wear it.
AMEN
Actually no, the owner of this nursery does NOT wear hijab and never ever did. She is from a wealthy rich elite family. She was never pressured to wear hijab but she looks down on hijabis and locals because she is a rich westernized Kuwaiti of elite upper class background.
Sadly this type of mentality is common among the Kuwaiti upper class elite especially non-hijabi fashionistas. Her family has ties to the ruling family and other elite families.
In the Middle East, the upper class elite are always westernized non-hijabis and look down on the hijabi masses
Why sadly? It’s their choice on what they believe. Before Kuwait became this super religious place it was really good. We had a pure napoleonic constitution where Abdullah Al Salem went to both the Uk and France for years to hand write the constitution which allowed women to vote, allowed drinking and didn’t attack homosexuality. Not to mention he allowed religious freedom which is why we have Kuwaiti Christians, Jews, atheists and even a Buddhist Kuwaiti I met. These “rich people” are infect the original Kuwaiti mentality of openness and haven’t been brainwashed into thinking otherwise.
Discrimination is enlightenment? I’m glad I’m not as “enlightened” as you.
If you bothered to read her post she commented about the mentality of looking down on women who wear hijab.
I did “bother to read her post” and as I said in the 60s-80s hijabs had no place in Kuwaiti society. If people are more than happy with MPs and parents pressuring and manipulating people to wear hijabs then they shouldn’t be fine with people doing the exact opposite? In the end maids are forced to wear hijabs in many households in Kuwait.. Why doesn’t anyone talk about that? Why doesn’t anyone defend them? You trying to tell me that a maid called Mary or some other non Muslim name asked to wear a hijab? Literally it’s the case in hundreds if not thousands of households and yet on one of two occasions of the opposite situation you guys have torches and axes out and ready. Plus she isn’t being forced, the employer simply told her that she wouldn’t get the job, the maids are forced to work and forced to wear it even some are forced to convert (either that or just don’t respect their non-Muslim name or something). Let’s not talk about women in the public sector where none communicates with them to unless they “cover up”, granted it’s not in every public sector job but it exists and none is trying to fix it.
+100.. some very good points here, i like
While I agree that the situation was much better before,
But Kuwait isn’t super religous, being western educated is necessarily a good thing because some people believe that anything other than complete
Western oriented culture and acts or beliefs is considered backward or unclassy,
They can believe what they want and are free to do so but that doesn’t mean they are correct neither are the elite rich and liberal the true Kuwaitis or the original mentality
The original mentality was way more advanced than anything we have now in 95% of the population
And the reason it doesn’t exist widely here is political and cultural influences. In addition to many more reasons.
Kuwait is super religious, Kuwait has the most mosque per person on earth, women still don’t have equal rights, homosexuality is attacked, drinking is forbidden, I believe dancing in public is forbidden by law, nightclubs are forbidden and women can’t wear whatever they want or say whatever they want etc. Maybe 30 years from now when the new generation of the 2000s take over then we’d have a more modern society. If an imam can force his family to wear hijabs then an employer can tell his/her employees to not wear one. Nothing to do with being rich or powerful. I’d be against the employer if the mentality in Kuwait changes, but it hasn’t and this acts as a counter balance.
I truly hope you take over before 30 years has passed, I would like to experience a more open and free Kuwait in my life time.
I’d ruin everything XD. First order of business, step down for my best friend to take over, she’s just as open as me (if not more), she’s a woman, atheist and lesbian, some MPs would get a heart attack. I’d literally get rupaul’s drag race and Westworld on KTV add a glass of fine cognac then I’ll die a happy man. Wallah I’d have riots everyday, probably get shot. Can I get a drag queen to be my secretary? They are shady as hell! (None of this is a joke)
Sulaiman-COOKIEE yes, please! You’ve definitely got my vote!
Also, Raja is my spirit animal ♥
Honestly, if most of this stuff was legalized then the locals would be less repressed and probably less inclined to act like hooligans. Just sayin’
Genuinely I believe that and they would get a gradual attitude change.
Nu I looove mama latrice, took me to church every week. And shade of it all!
I’d ruin everything XD. First order of business, step down for my best friend to take over, she’s just as open as me (if not more), she’s a woman, atheist and lesbian, some MPs would get a heart attack. I’d literally get rupaul’s drag race and Westworld on KTV add a glass of fine cognac then I’ll die a happy man. Wallah I’d have riots everyday, probably get shot. Can I get a drag queen to be my secretary? They are shady as hell! (None of this is a joke)
A typical liberal Arab if not a Zionist, out of all the things the western culture have you’ve picked up homosexuality and drinking?!
Because everything else in Kuwait is hunky dory
Woooow wooooow, did you just insult a one of the 3 holiest religions in the Quran by saying Jews are zionists? DISGUSTING. Who the hell do you think you are to insult a religion that god himself said is one of the 3 holiest religions. How dare you.
And one more thing I said many, many things, why did you pick homosexuality and drinking out of all I said? Huh?? Many people drink and legally they can, why can’t we sell them safe, taxable alcohol to consume.. isn’t that the humane thing to do? Give people the safer alternative cause they’ll drink either way, give the taxes to help boost us or just to charity to feel good about yourself. Gay people are born the way they are, who do you think you are to abuse them for the way they were born? No genuinely answer my question, WHO DO YOU ARE?
Never go full retard mate, Judaism is not Zionism never been and never will.
Providing alternatives is not bad idea, but expect more death tolls from stabbing at Avenues and car accidents on ring roads. Putting people’s lives at risk just for pleasure? Woow wooow how humane.
Did I said anything about abusing homosexual people? I don’t remember saying that, is that your way of arguing? Start accusing people of things they didn’t say in order to dodge the main idea here and that is you picked up points of pleasure out of all the advancements the western civilization has.
Well it’s relatively not as religious as Saudi or say a religious fanatism ruled areas of the world.
The vast disposable income has helped the kuwaiti families experience the West and they genuinely want Kuwait to be more like the West.
We have n churches here, kuwaitis celebrate Christmas, there are even kuwaiti Christan priests. The government generally is very liberal and doesn’t go into witch Hunts trying to out other religions.
Homosexuality is just being accepted even in the West, I am not expecting it to be accepted in Kuwait soon.
Yeah Kuwait still has a long way to go, but it’s not that bad.
so to you a liberal country is being able to dance in public and having night clubs? how about setting your priorities? being a liberal country is accepting the kind of people that live there whether they wear a hijab or not. being liberal or a “modern society” is being open to all kinds of mentalities and not just your own. so that means accepting the religious people and not so religious. this is what Kuwait is missing, not less mosques and more night clubs.
This
NOP they put down laws that affect my decrease my rights. I think we have been more than accepting of that mentality because they can do whatever they want and decide to ban things in the name of religion, we haven’t retaliated. We change any law then they’ll change it back and use god as an excuse. We are not god so stop trying to play god and let people do what they want to do and let god judge them. Yeah I want more nightclubs, I want alcohol, I want to be happy rather than run round the fucking avenues spending money to try and fill the god damn void because that is what they restricted us to do. They want us to only shop, like the people who put a light on chicken feed at night to get it force it to eat more, these rich franchisees want restricted us to boost their businesses. They forced business to franchise so that they can exploit us with their prices, they forced women not to vote, they attack non Muslim Kuwaiti minorities, they attack women’s rights and refused to shake hands with a fellow female MP. THOSE ARE PEOPLE YOUR DEFENDING?!?
They put restrictions it out of their own heads and the put religion to cement its place. MPs shouldn’t be able to use god or any of his religions to “back themselves up” it’s disgraceful to use the name religion, literally wiping the cleanest thing god created into politics which is the scum of the earth. None especially no MP should ever use the name of god or religion as an excuse for their own personal gain or any gain, because that is abuse and exploitation which are both against the law. I think I see a black van coming towards me… shit.
clearly you didn’t read what I wrote. first of all, women have been able to vote since 2005 so I don’t know what you’re talking about. Kuwait is the only country in the region where women can go out wearing clothes rather than abayas and hijabs. women here can drive and travel as they like. as a man I don’t think you should be deciding if us women in Kuwait have enough rights or not. leave it for the women to decide.
secondly, I never defended anyone that uses religion to pass laws or whatever you’re talking about. I just said that your biggest priority to turn Kuwait into a liberal country shouldn’t be having less mosques and more nightclubs. its about accepting the amount of mosques we have and also accepting the people that are not religious and want more freedom. just let the people be whoever they want to be and do whatever they want to do.
The original constitution allowed women to vote and MPs removed that right. Women can dress as they like? Drive? You are comparing us To Saudi not the region. Oh btw women are allowed to breath oxygen and drink water in Kuwait.
I swear I’d accept any ideal, wallah I would. But they have abused that right time and time again, they shouldn’t have it anymore. They would have the right to practice their religion and have their ideals and beliefs but not preech. Plus I’m sorry I lost my shit.. wanna Cookie?
The “fellow female MP” is a xenophobic demagogue… Not the kind of hands that people should shake.
Kid, all the nightclubs and alcohol in the world won’t fill your void
This is ridiculous and this type of discrimination is unacceptable.
As a country the mentality needs addressing immediately as we can not allow discrimination or bias.
We cannot lag behind a global community that is trying to battle against stereotypes and biases
But we need someone in parliament who is in touch with these issues and can deal with the power and influence behind Kuwaiti elite
amazing how u defend a discriminatory and biased concept like the hijab, by saying “we can not allow discrimination or bias”
I’m always surprised by the fact that Kuwait is deemed to have ‘religious freedom’ when in reality that’s not true. There are places of worship for Christians but not for Hindus (who are perhaps the biggest expat group here!). Bahrain, UAE, Oman and Qatar have Hindu temples, FYI.
I’m all in for a temple! And I want to throw paint during holi.
Thank you for reducing Hinduism to something white people and Pharrell Williams have adopted.
Eat your heart out.
there is a difference between religiosity and conservatism, as they don’t necessarily go hand in hand. kuwait is religious, but that comes from the country’s national framework and political conservatism rather than some theocratic agenda. theres safa al-hashem, for example, who has very recently criticized the hijab street ads as strange and incompatible with the values of individual freedom espoused in the constitution, and while that was all nice and liberal and tolerant of her, god knows that woman would fit right in with donald trump’s circles if he were to ever come across her deluded, screeching rants about foreigners. (i will never get over her accusing foreigners of stealing oxygen masks from kuwaiti patients. FRICKING OXYGEN MASKS.)
there is no such thing as an authentic “kuwaiti mentality”, an idea which itself makes way for a nationalistic sense of superiority. in your beloved golden age of kuwait, “original” kuwaitis were not just the wealthier classes you’re apparently so set on gushing over; kuwaitis were also simple market salesmen, pearl divers, garbage collectors, kitchen cookers, laundry men and women, fishers, fruit-sellers – all struggling to make 1-digit dinars a week and sleeping on floors. societies are composed of people from a diverse variety of socio-economic backgrounds and religious perspectives. the suggestion that the minority elite represent the truest principles and conscience of a society is pretty elitist, and this line of thought doesn’t make you any different from so many other conservative kuwaitis, no matter how many atheist lesbian friends you may have or how many nightclubs you’d like to build.
yes, hijabs fell away in the 50s and 60s, but the westernized appearance of the period was sometimes just that: an appearance. some mini-skirt wearing women of the 50s still came from families with conservative ideas about who you could marry, what you could study, your place of employment, or if you could even take the bus due to the presence of other males, covered or uncovered. families were still known for forbidding their “modern” daughters from working as nurses, or journalists, or tv announcers, or radio hosts, or actresses. it was a liberal era, yes, but that liberalism was not always reflected indoors, superficial as this liberalism was sometimes. theres more to liberalism as a political philosophy and way of government than just going “yay nightclubs! alcohol! gay bars!”, all which i’m not against. and while hijabs were not the norm, there are plenty black-and-white photos showing average women covered in abayas, which was the preferred alternative to the hijab.
moreover, if you truly care for the welfare of maids in this country – not just in their right to dress and worship as they wish, but also in their overall workers rights that protect them from degrading working conditions, because god knows their struggles do not even begin let alone end at forced hijabs and religious conversions – then you have to turn to the root of the problem, which is our institutionalized labor discrimination, so ingrained into the fabric of kuwaiti culture that people wonder how we could ever survive without it. i mean, just look at the comments in this thread. it seems the prevailing argument presented throughout this debate is, “well, if we discriminate against X, then its only fair that we discriminate against Y”. its never occurred to anyone to evaluate the legitimacy of the country’s discrimination laws in the first place, some of the most nonsensical and screwed up laws in the world. instead we only counter one discrimination with another, or come up with a better discrimination plan. geez.
The way you type makes it look like you look down on her! Why is it ok for Hijabis to look down on non-hijabis but when it is the reverse then it is not allowed. You are accusing the owner of what you yourself are guilty of.
THIS! Bravo.
please with the “elite” classification….the westernized mentality is due to dying for validation from a people who will never accept them…the owner not wearing an hijab doesnt give her right to violate someone religious freedom…funny thing is most of these archaic decisions regarding female religious freedom is being made by muslim women! being…the audacity to dictate make something halal be haram is so freaking scary…the irony is that in the countries which the “elite” worship, she would be sue and most likely win for religious discrimination
Kuwaiti upper class elite think that way ? I don’t think so. Upper class lower class whatever class if you’re a Muslim and you look down on hijab you’re either not a Muslim or totally oblivious to what you belief entails.
Lmao I hope she names this English, expat only nursery “PETER RABIT”
+1
Member of a “wealthy rich elite family” opening an English nursery and can’t spell rabbit…
Thanks for the re-post Mark, this was almost as bad as when my mother went for an interview with a Kuwaiti and he asked her if she could hear through her hijab. I doubt expats really have a problem with someone wearing hijab, it’s the new wave of thinking hijab ain’t cool and fashionistas rule that the new generation follows.
Loved your reply by the way,that shows true class ..
The Kuwait towers Whatsapp background is to make the screenshots feel legit? or is it to show how patriotic this future teacher feeling about the country? or is it to slander this country?
You are reading to much in to the background. Have some tea and relax, that’s a feature on this chat app called whats app, ever heard if it? Well you can customize your background on it and that’s what shows up no matter who your tAlking to or about what and since you decided to look so much in to it then I will tell you she probably put that back ground because …..you guessed it she lives in Kuwait.😱
You seriously focused on my background picture? I’m not only a blogger who is always taking pictures but a mother and aunt of Kuwaitis, smh.
3azeez it’s whatever YOU want it to be 🙂
I want it to be you.
what a bunch of hypocrites
is this hypocrisy?
I can’t believe that I reading this is the 21 century! Like seriously!!!! We’re still discussing skin colours and headgears! like who cares!!!!!
Haven’t they learned anything from the campaign? Hijab is the secret to happiness.
lololoooooo Wolla if I can find happiness in a piece of cloth, I am buying them all.
i really hope you are not serious.
Just saying what the government endorsed campaign is saying.
Epic Paradox
“Management is highly educated, extra nice and classy”
“Main target is foreigners and expat kids, not locals”
“Hope you don’t wear hijab”
BIGLOL!
It is difficult to take this chat seriously with that font and emojis.
I was in San Francisco one of the most liberal cities in California the most liberal state, and I saw a teacher wearing a hijab in a field trip with kindergarten students.
I gave that story just as an example of how liberalism should look like. Now some will jump and say that liberal countries and cities give freedom to homosexuals also, they will say are we ready for that ?
My answer is no, because Kuwait’s constitution states in the 2nd article as follows:
Article 2
The religion of the State is Islam, and the Islamic Sharia shall be a main source of legislation.
But all people should be treated in dignity without discrimination as article 29 states:
Article 29
All people are equal in human dignity, and in public rights and duties before the law, without distinction as to race, origin, language or religion
Freedom of religion is ensured as the constitution states:
Article 35
Freedom of belief is absolute. The State protects the freedom of Practicing religion in accordance with established customs, provided that it does not conflict with public policy or morals
If you don’t like their dress code then apply for a job somewhere else. Not everybody is a fan of the hijab, and not for fashion reasons. If it is ok to force women to wear the hijab then it should be ok for a school to ask its future employees to not wear them.
Please do tell, what are the reasons? The people run the school are muslim. I would love to know there reasons. The Quran states, there is no compulsion in religion. Therefore, hijab or no hijab, shouldn’t be a determining factor in getting hired for a job…the bigger issue is truth, and how it cant roll off the tongue of people here….this is the actual reason…I am not comfortable with my culture, rather ashamed of it. Seeing you with an hijab makes me angry because it confronts my own insecurities and as i promote my “western” school, wearing hijab doesnt fit with white master’s narrative, and therefore mine…..say that and be honest cause that is real issue!!! if western countries started popularizing hijabs,,,those “elite” people would be the first to wear them
It’s wrong to put a rule forcing people to wear or not wear what they want/have to. That’s against freedom.
But rules are rules. If we can bear with all the rules Kuwait/islam puts on us then it’s only fair we bear the rules a private firm asks of us.
On the other hand, huge boards urging women and girls to wear hijab in order to “be happy” is also a form of discrimination.
Everyone is so concerned with the female body and it always has to use religion as a lever.
I don’t see it just being about hijab – it’s about any form of discrimination in advertising.
In Kuwait, discrimination in advertising isn’t illegal. There have been plenty of ads looking for specific genders (male only, female only), age, marital status, religion, even “good looking” etc… over the years. If you are going to make this form of discrimination illegal, all forms should be made illegal. Right now, it is just business as usual.
This particular discrimination only hits a nerve because is in reference to hijab.
Unacceptable, but whats also shocking is why they dont wont local kids in there nursery?
Sheesh.. I don’t think I have seen so much genderphobia, xenophobia and religiophobia in one place.. and you all live in the same place.
using words like “sheesh”? really? i dont think a healthy debate about a very serious issue is considered genderphobia or xenophobia or xanthophobia, stop using big words to sound intelligent, just makes u sound judgmental. Lots of countries have issues of clashing and conflicting ideologies and opinions, stop making it look so dark, it’s a healthy debate, nothing else
Im amazed people still defend the oppressive and sexist concept of hijab like its a thing of greatness and awesomeness and free bitcoins. Why not defend slavery? Same difference. It’s like defending over eating, being overweight is a bad idea, people can get rejected from a job for being overweight, because the extra weight affects how efficiently they can do their job. Wearing a hijab is a mental obstacle, meaning there are areas of thought that that person will most likely try to avoid, not to mention the possible indoctrination of little kids into the “good” idea of the hijab. The parents of the kids going to this school they get to dictate how things work in that school, stop acting so shocked and horrified when a sexist concept is “unwanted” in a school. As harsh as it sounds, the school did nothing wrong.
Keep your views to your self “the school did nothing wrong”
They just insulted a religion which is nearly third of this world population
how about you keep YOUR views to yourself, you believe they insulted a third of the population, so what? is religion so weak that a simple insult hurts it? is that what pisses u off? the insult to the religion? or the woman’s right to have this job? confused sad person, go away
Hijab is a religious thing not a cultural thing so get your facts right you dumb breh
I.e people wear disdasha = culture
Hijab = religious beliefs
Turban= religious believes
Scottish Kilt= culture
When the hell did i say hijab was a cultural thing? Me dumb breh? You are making stuff up you simple little inbred. Not that it isnt btw, the hijab concept is both a cultural and a religious thing because religion has woven itself into culture and has created the foundation for our culture, unfortunately. Anyway, if you read above you will see that i ACTUALLY said it is a mental obstacle, and i called it an oppressive and sexist concept, seems to me like you dont know what “facts” are. Again, so sad, why am i even replying god damn it even simple debates these days make me feel like stupidity is increasing exponentially every year. People like you rush into saying stupid things just to make a point, stumbling into stupidity
Hey how about you go defend woman’s rights by sucking every man’s rod , can’t believe you’re so oppressed go blow everyone !
I can’t believe humans are so oppressed by wearing clothes !! Nice logic you Cuck.
i seriously do not understand your point. What’s happening here? When your words attack me personally, when you ignore the argument by telling me to go suck a rod, thats called an Ad Hominum, it means you suck basically. If your simple brain does not understand how the concept of clothes can be oppressive, then i cannot help you, simpleton. The hijab, the burqa, the niqab and the abbaya are all oppressive forms clothes set by men wanting to control women, go educate yourself simple sir.
whether these people like it or not it’s a symbol of oppression and you won’t catch me pretending to be so outraged when the same happens the other way round.
right? isnt it mind blowing how they get angry when a 1400 year old concept is rejected in society. accepting and tolerating an intolerant concept is a hypocrisy that the extreme left does not understand, and it seems religious people are getting away with it because of emotions and feelings, and us not wanting to hurt them. Prof Brian Cox said
“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!”
Let’s see what kind of dust this quotation stirs up.
Dont get me wrong, women can be hijabis all they want, till the end of time, but everyone should stop freaking out when a hijab is used against someon. Just like if someone is a slob and wears messy clothing, that person can be rejected from a job, due to the worry that this person’s wardrobe could possibly reflect his or her mentality. Simple
“wearing a hijab is a mental obstacle, meaning there are areas of thought that that person will most likely try to avoid”
no study, literature or piece of text has ever suggested a correlation between the hijab and working skill or quality of labor. speaking as someone who wore and removed the hijab myself, i’m glad i never achieved such a level of condescension where i would actually imply at an inherent inferiority in women for their choice of dress. i never realized that a piece of cloth could result in the re-wiring of my brain’s cerebral cortex and suppression of my neurotransmitters, severing my mental capacity to form ideas and judgments of my own. while wearing the hijab, i apparently wrote up a list of topics that i should never speak of or allow to enter my mind, incase i hurt myself and got overwhelmed with all that independent thought.
Well then why did you remove the hijab then? You seem to focus on my comment about the mental obstacle, but dont seem to talk about the “sexist and oppressive” comment i made, which means you probably agree with it. True the newer generation seems to be less stuck to the older way of thinking, and i personally know hijab wearing ladies who are very open minded and free thinking, they just wear the hijab because of family pressure and such. Your technical terminology describing the re-wiring of your cerebral cortex does a lot to show how smart and savvy you are, so use that brain to understand that when i say it is a mental obstacle, it does not necessarily mean that physical changes are happening like your neurotransmitters being suppressed, but that the hijab would enforce a religious path of thinking that always ends with GOD being at the end of every existential and mysterious question that science and society has no answer to. I am sorry my comment can be read in a very generalized way, i probably should have reworded it so your scientific mentality (which i respect) gets it: “Society places a burden on hijab wearing ladies, that religion/piety is THE path to take, so make sure you do not do or think or say anything that offends god or religion”. If a hijab wearing lady thinks or says something blasphemous that she is convinced of, then her wearing a hijab is a very hypocritical thing. For example, “I love my country and the laws the government places on us, but I speed at 160kph on the emergency lane” if I do that then i am a hypocrite. Oppressive, sexist, and a mental obstacle. I stand my ground. Prove to me these three characteristics do not apply to the hijab. You’re damn right clothing can show a level of inferiority, not just in women. Would you trust a doctor who shows up to your surgery naked? Would you trust your lawyer if his belief tells him to dress and smell like a hobo? I am sorry but you seem like another form of the liberal extreme left defending and tolerating an intolerant concept, hypocrisy yo. Why did you take the hijab off?
“You seem to focus on my comment about the mental obstacle, but dont seem to talk about the “sexist and oppressive” comment i made, which means you probably agree with it.”
i didn’t comment on your hijab-is-sexist talk because i’m not interested in that kind of debate which already floods the comment sections of any article remotely related to islam. my personal beliefs on the intricacies of the hijab are irrelevant to the question of barring employment to hijabi women. yes, the employers decide all they want, but i am questioning this exact work culture of kuwait – and the gcc, really, with the slight exception of oman – that normalizes labor discrimination of the most regressive sort. egyptians = fast food waiters and taxi drivers, south asians = garbage collectors and street workers, syrians and lebanese = receptionists and secretaries, filipinos = overworked maids, americans and europeans = company owners and private school teachers. most societies make room for upward mobility, whereas it looks near impossible in this country.
this school was just one school in a long string of schools that have a near obsession with hiring westerners and europeans, which in no way is a problem in and of itself until it entails looking down on the non-WASPy, browner folk despite their proven skills and credentials. as a teacher myself, i am well aware of the sense of ‘elitism’ behind the hiring processes in these schools and nurseries.
“If a hijab wearing lady thinks or says something blasphemous that she is convinced of, then her wearing a hijab is a very hypocritical thing. For example, “I love my country and the laws the government places on us, but I speed at 160kph on the emergency lane” if I do that then i am a hypocrite.”
for someone who disapproves of the one-way line of thinking that ‘ends in god’, you sure don’t mind dealing in absolutes yourself. i sure hope there are kuwaitis out there that love their country but won’t hesitate a second to criticize its glaring faults like governmental corruption and the slave-ish treatment of southasian/east african expats and so many other nonsensical laws. this is not a complicated concept. you don’t have to stand behind anything 100% in such a way that you close your mind to criticism. i can adore my own mother while calling out her bullshit.
“the hijab would enforce a religious path of thinking that always ends with GOD being at the end of every existential and mysterious question that science and society has no answer to. I am sorry my comment can be read in a very generalized way, i probably should have reworded it so your scientific mentality (which i respect) gets it: “Society places a burden on hijab wearing ladies, that religion/piety is THE path to take, so make sure you do not do or think or say anything that offends god or religion”.”
your beef, then, seems to lie more with hardline religiosity in general than the scarf itself, but correct me if i’m wrong. non-hijabi muslim women aren’t necessarily any more or less religious than hijabi women. infact, many non-hijabi muslims seem to resent the holier-than-thou attitudes of some hijabi women that suggest they’re not as committed to their religions, or even westerners and europeans guessing that non-hijabi muslims are not “one of those crazy muslims” and could therefore more easily integrate into their societies on the assumption that they’re less attached to their local cultures. in gulf societies, alot of the younger hijabis don’t always like to be seen as religious. when i was interviewing a young kuwaiti hijabi in her early twenties for an ethnographic research, she joked asking “what am i, a bedouin to you?”. i had to reverse tactics in my research because i found that alot of the young hijabis were a little weirded out – but not offended – by the assumption that they were something like experts in their religions or that they could explain any religious or spiritual questions i had. they didn’t even have an interest in clarifying misconceptions to westerners about their religions. sure, they’d feel greatly offended by the dumber questions like ‘did your muslim father/husband beat you into submission?’ and would try to leave the conversation, but they don’t quite care to pull out qur’anic verses to clear things up or get into a lengthy debate on the metaphysics of god and the universe. kuwaitis and other arabs, on the other hand, don’t exactly take one look at a young hijab-wearing woman down the street and think that she must know half the quran by heart.
finally, religiosity comes and fades. not every muslim prays 5 times a day, or fasts, or abstains from alcohol. there is no ‘religious calculator’ measuring the degrees of religiousness in an individual that can eventually total up to a ‘true, non-hypocritical muslim’ answer. there are LGBT muslims, secular muslims, reformist muslims, liberal muslims, muslims suffering from alcoholism, muslims suffering from drug addictions, muslims that have removed their hijabs, non-denominational muslims, plain irreligious muslims, followers of the nation of islam. then there are islamic sects such as the ahmaddiya muslims, ibadi muslims, quranist muslims, alevi muslims, alawite muslims, druze muslims. none of these examples of groups fit into neat little boxes of a singular islamic experience and practice, and you’d exhaust yourself trying to locate the true muslims from the ‘hypocritical’ ones. the entire 1-point-something billion population of muslims may as well be hypocrites by your definition. afterall, islamic practice varies from culture to culture, subculture to subculture, such as black nationalist circles of the 60s or post-war albania. some latino muslims in south america today appreciate the similarities between islam and catholicism and therefore continue to participate in the catholic festivities within their local towns. in nigeria, a minority of the yoruba people practice ‘chrislam’, a faith combining the teachings of christianity and islam since the 70s and 80s. bosnian muslims often state that they practice a ‘different kind of islam’ from that of the middle east. traditional islam is too ‘arab’ for them and incompatible with their european identities, feeling only a historical and cultural closeness with turkey.
consider the historical factor too, since islam has not maintained a singular practice for over a span of centuries. the ottoman empire decriminalized homosexuality in 1858 as part of the tanzimat reformations. in kuwait alone, people rejected the hijab as an overly religious statement, but still preferred the commonly worn abaya which demonstrated an ‘appropriate’ level of religiousness.
many factors – historical, societal, economic, political, geopolitical, cultural – ultimately influence a variety of religious practices and identities across the world.
“I am sorry but you seem like another form of the liberal extreme left defending and tolerating an intolerant concept, hypocrisy yo.”
yeah, a hijabi woman getting hired for a job she’s qualified for is what takes the women’s movement a step back. how the hell does a woman simply wearing a hijab of her own volition constitute an act of intolerance? a hijabi woman sitting across from my office desk isn’t picking my pocket or hurling slurs or coming at me, so what is there to ‘not tolerate’ in her mere existence? the employers did not turn this hijabi woman away because of their ideological differences with the gendered conceptions of the hijab. if the woman’s happy in her hijab, i don’t need to get in her face about my theoretical speculations or try to change her worldview like its my place, when all she cares about is getting her paycheck and going home. if hoping shes happy in her current state of clothing makes me an extreme leftie, then extreme leftie i am. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ will make sure to preorder my das kapital and antifa coffee mug.
Damn.. some of these comments are so disturbing.
Big time
there is a kind of elitist rule in most of these british/american schools of kuwait to preserve a ‘Western/European’ image that exemplifies high culture, prestigious education, and funnily enough, “liberal diversity” – all with the hopes of distinguishing themselves as a high-ranking, international institution within the country. i know a hijabi woman would not fit into this image of “sophistication”. kuwaiti parents feel proud that their children are being taught by white, blond, blue-eyed westerners and europeans, and would rather not surround their children with some arabs and other brown people, despite their skills and experiences abroad and masters degrees and language fluency. that was my parents’ own mindset when sending me to a british school in kuwait.
i can’t help but look back at my school years very differently now, even though i cherished my teachers and still do. i never thought about why, in all my 16 years in that school, i had never once come across any teacher that wasn’t either english, welsh, scottish, (i never saw an irish teacher, interesting), australian, new zealander.
the arabic teachers – whose class resources were always visibly underfunded – were also either syrian, lebanese or egyptian. there was ONE kuwaiti teacher who entered the picture just a few years before i graduated, and students treated him like a unicorn, the last of his breed and were always scared he’d leave. it was always a mystery how HE ended up there, and he was always treated as the teacher who didn’t fit in, with jokes about how he was clearly in the wrong place. speaking as a teacher myself, these types of english schools in kuwait don’t seem aware of how motivating it can be for students to come across teachers from the same background as them and therefore relate with them on a more intimate level; that arab teachers are and can infact be valuable assets. i don’t see a need to remove them so far from the “feel” of their local environments.
two years ago, i came across a pakistani woman in my local gym who told me that she had 2 daughters enrolled in the same british school i attended – one had graduated several years back while the other younger daughter was still over at the school. she said she liked the school “but it’s just so arab now”, because british students weren’t enrolling as much as they used to in the early 2000’s and that somehow spoke to the school’s diminishing status. it’s just a hell of a thing.
hey, this is just my personal perspective. i’m sure there are people here who have attended private english schools, maybe your experiences are different.