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A Doctor’s Rant

Below is a kinda long but interesting write up by a friend of mine currently working in the medical field. It’s related to the “Kuwait to segregate medical care” post from last week:

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Its not a sprint, its a marathon

We need help. Everyone can agree that healthcare in Kuwait should be paramount. We need to have a healthcare system we can be proud of and confident in. I need to feel proud of where I work and the job I do. The recent lobby towards segregated healthcare for none emergent cases is just one more example of a quick fix for many failed and saddening endeavours that we as a profession are at least partly responsible for.

From the outset I doubt that anyone working currently in Kuwaiti healthcare is evil or bad or totally and completely corrupt. In fact, I think many of us started our careers inspired and full of promise but were met by challenges that we cannot possibly overcome. At a healthcare system level, we need to refine our goals and find our way towards something more efficient and dare I say it welcoming to people.

How many people reading this have a family doctor?

I doubt many of you do. This may be because you are perfectly healthy but it’s probably because you show up at the emergency room if you need anything because you have no confidence in your local poly clinic or mustawsif. The fact of the matter is that I wouldn’t either.

We need to re-create the family doctors as the go to guy or girl for all things non emergency and as the primary referring physician (small bruises, vaccines, high blood pressure, diabetes control, breast and colon cancer screening). This will mean two big changes. The first is that one doctor or centre will have all your medical history and that from now on you won’t show up to the emergency room unless it is an actual emergency, otherwise the emergency department will refuse to see you (this is the norm in the US, Canada and the UK NHS, it is becoming the norm in many south east asian countries gradually as well). More importantly we need to equip our poly clinics and family doctors with information and facilities such as x-ray facilities, ultrasound and turn a rundown office into an actual treatment facility. We also need to mandate a minimum amount of courses to be taken by these doctors so that they remain up to date in their fields (this should be true for all doctors in general come to think of it)

Provided you’ve got a referral or are trying to see a specialist, how many of you see them on time?

The way things are now, if you live in Mishref, you go to specialists in Mubarak, if you live near Adan then you are sent there. This means that the areas with the highest population end up with the longest waiting times. We need a structured dynamic referral system. I’m sure that there is some sort of solution I’m just not sure what it is. Perhaps if there was a regular update of which areas had the shortest waiting time were made available to family practitioners on a daily basis (via email). It may mean that patients will get their appointments earlier.

The problem is that I doubt that a person living in Jahra would be happy coming to Amiri for his echocardiogram even if it meant he or she would get it quicker. Having referrals to different hospital for different things would mean that you need to have all the patients data accessible across different hospitals in a sort of a cloud. Lets face it people, I’m more likely to see a giant flying saucer deliver free red velvet cupcakes at 360 than I am to see the ministry of health manage a cloud based patient filing system.

Having exhausted all efforts to get an early appointment you decided to go private, how many of you see a physician in his private practice after trying to get an early appointment in his government funded one?

Many of us have a conflict of interest when we are employed in private and public healthcare. I know colleagues who completely neglect their public healthcare patients and I know others who have no interest in private healthcare. Regardless, clear guidelines have to be set so that a physician working in the private healthcare field does not neglect his or her public healthcare practice. A bill requiring all doctors working in private healthcare to have 50% of their practice as public or pro bono might be the best solution but it’ll also mean that you would be the most hated minister of health in the history of Kuwait. (Maybe if we start with 30%, doctors are less likely to revolt)

Lastly, how many of you actually see a specialist?

Defining the term specialized in Kuwait is very difficult. How many of you actually get to see a colorectal, or hepatobiliary surgeon or a surgical oncologist? How many of you see an actual sleep study specialist or an actual trauma surgeon in the emergency departments? I know they exist because I’ve worked with them and seen them get trained. The reasons why you don’t see them around are many.

The first is that the current regulations do not allow for unique subspecialties. For example if you are a colorectal surgeon your actually registered as a general surgeon in the ministry because colorectal is not recognized as it’s own independent discipline.

The second is because we don’t have the infrastructure or a way of providing it for the people who are trained in specialist fields. For example we have 6 transplant surgeons who can do liver transplants but we lack the resources required for them to perform them and do not mandate a need for these resources, specialties and departments to be built.

The third and most worrisome is how we treat people who are trained abroad. The current regulations mandate that anybody trained abroad having attained full specialist status is forced to return as a registrar or senior registrar for a number of years. By the time they finally became attendings or consultants they will have probably forgotten everything they have learned red and would be content running a general practice rather than have to keep up to date in their field and attempt to establish it in Kuwait.

Worst still we not only force these Kuwaitis into registrar positions instead of acknowledging their training, we also go and hire “experts” from the centres that trained them to do surgeries in Kuwait rather than make use of young talented experts in the field many of which we have spent money training. This has lead to a complete lack of specialization in many fields.

After three years of doing general surgery, a colorectal or robotic surgeon will have probably forgotten his original trade craft and would find it a lot less stressful to just stick to general surgey and a little stomach stapling every now and then. The alternative is to just leave the country and go back to work in the states or Canada or where ever else they’ve trained because for the most part, these people are actually damn good doctors.

Because of the complexity of problems such as these and many others; giving a minister of health a year or two to fix things will just result in a bunch of quick fixes that lead to no long term progress. I really do feel that we’re trying to sprint through a marathon when it comes to fixing Kuwaiti healthcare and I doubt the solution is a one year or two years plan, it should take time and it should be done gradually with perseverance.

That’s my two cents.

– Saud, a Kuwaiti doctor living and working/training in Montreal.
Twitter: @saudnz

34 replies on “A Doctor’s Rant”

“We need help.”

You have supervisors, head of departments, head of hospitals, head of governorates, you have a minister and you have a union.

You are supposedly highly educated, highly skilled, and from the community’s elites.

Why are you complaining online? Go take actions. Talk through the appropriate channels to the appropriate people. The situation will not be completely fixed, however you may help take one step further.

Otherwise, you are as much useless as everything negative here. and
خسارة فيك التعليم والاستثمار اللي استثمرته ديرتك فيك.

3azeez you definetly have no bloody idea about how the ministry works, how public hospitals are run, the number of doctors who follow our ethics.

“خسارة فيك التعليم والاستثمار اللي استثمرته ديرتك فيك”

Have you tried banging your head against a brick wall ? No … Then go be a “decent” physician and you’ll know what that means.

Talk through appropriate channels .. Funny guy, as if that works.

He can take it even further by complaining online and getting the public involved.. at least people are aware of the issues and what needs to be done.

You know what is worse than the negative people, the ones that point fingers and expect others to solve their issues (and this is our issue as much as it is his).

sorry 3azeez but you are quite an ignorant person. Here in kuwait, if you think that “the appropriate channels” means that anything is going to be done, you are out of your mind. I would like to see where people follow an organized chain of command that ACTUALLY holds people responsible for their actions.

Internet awareness at LEAST brings topics out so that we can understand that YES there are even PHYSICIANS who have legitimate complaints about the system. so if you had your own biases about whether there were issues, now you know from a third party that there ARE in fact issues. And, they are outlined. So awareness is definitely the first step. Publicizing issues is important. I think as a blog, this is doing its job by bringing topics like these to light.

First step to solving a problem is to recognize it. And if widespread recognition is what it takes then let him talk as much smack as he likes. It seems like you hate to hear it the bad that comes along with this country because, yes, it’s great, yes it had supported us well, but that doesn’t mean we should hide our failures.

Anyone who has held a job for a while knows that not everything you want to fix,improve or implement can happen in one day. That was the point I was trying to make, I wasn`t just simply complaining.

After spending 2.5+ years navigating the government health care system for my son, (and am currently at the end of a nearly 8 month wait for a GI specialist appt that I told his regular dr he needed, and yet she waited nearly 3 months before finally agreeing that, yes, I was right, my son needs to see a GI dr, but the ONE pediatric GI specialist is so backed up, the appt was set 5 months out – luckily, it is not a life-and-death situation) – I have many things I could add to make the health system better, and many of them are very small corrections that would take very little effort (although the biggest non-medical-specific is the same as one of this dr’s ideas – there needs to be a connection of all the hospitals by a computer system – my son has been to 10 different hospitals and clinics, and I have to tote around all this paperwork to make sure that I, a non-medically trained person, am remembering every detail about the visits at all the other hospitals, so that no medications conflict, no diagnosis are missed, and that the drs all have all the proper information about his health. Insane having hand-written, paper files in this day and age….

A linked computer system wont fix the issue, might make it a little better. I love this phrase which I repeat to friends “You pay peanuts, you get monkeys” and it stands true on small and grand scales.

Bad implementation of a computer system has already failed in a hospital.
$$$$ wasted .. I mean spent …

We can educate our people all we want, but in the end its bad management and lack of work ethics that’s plaguing the country.

Lack of work ethics isn’t something you’re born with, it’s something you can be educated/raised into.

I have been living in Kuwait now for 27 yrs now and although there are improvements in Public sector management, its far and few in between. The problem is not only in the medical sector but all government managed sectors. Quick fix solutions seem to be the norm these days, these so called quick fix solutions will only will have disastrous effect on the Kuwait economy in the long term. Segregation, reducing expats, taxes only on some, these are all negative solutions. How about an inclusive solution, how about making expats feel like they are at home, that way billions of dinars will not go out of kuwait and economy will automatically become more vibrant and ultimately the citizens will benefit. I do agree with quotas at work places for Citizens as this is their county but segregation and preferential treatment on certain things only creates more divide. Hope better sense prevails as this is an amazing country with heaps of potential.

The quotas didn’t really work. Companies either hire people without registering them while they live on a visit visa/family visa, or they put Kuwaitis who aren’t registered on the company on the payroll without having them come into work for the quota numbers.

They also aren’t completely kicking out Expats, just reducing them. There are a lot of entry-level jobs that could be done by Kuwaitis, those are the jobs they want to free up for young unemployed Kuwaitis, and not something like you would have living here for 3 decades. The demographics of Kuwait mean there are going to be a lot of unemployed Kuwaitis in the next 10 years.

@aaa.. you know how hard it is for companies to keep up with the quota system? you know how hard it is to find Kuwaities who truly are willing to work?

that’s the reason most companies resort to pay them but someone else will do the job role policy. i know companies who have set up graduate training programs, which is great.. but most of these students are working for 3-4 hrs only.. rest of the time they are hanging out at the coffee shop.

and you do realise that one of the most important aspect of good companies is to retain employees.. it is a tough task to retain Kuwaities because they dont really need to do that job..

@steven… i dont understand.. how ppl end up dragging expats in to every conversation in Kuwait. The guy is talking about the healthcare system!!!

Sorry but that’s just stereotyping. Is it ok to say “Indians don’t truly want to work, they just pretend to open excel on their computer and press up and down all day to look busy?”

You know what Saudi is doing to companies that say “it’s too hard” to meet the quota? Complete hiring freeze on non-saudis, massive fines for anyone who didn’t meet the quota on top of the freeze. There are companies with branches in Saudi that have the proper quota, but their Kuwaiti office doesn’t because the government isn’t as strict on them. It shouldn’t be the responsibility of the government to figure out how to retain Kuwaitis for the companies. The telecoms do it, the banks do it, if a company can’t do it it is their fucking problem for being a shit company that doesn’t know how to treat their employees. If you’re talking about the company I think you are, they have a horrible retention rate for their non-Kuwaiti managers too.

Atleast the Indian knows which version of excel he is using and the file format ! He will not give word 2003 saved doc to someone who has 2007 or higher version !

maybe you meant not give a higher version .docx(2007/2010) file format to someone using 2003? there’s no problem if you save in 2003 .doc and give it to somebody having 2007, 2010, 2013 version as it is backwards compatible.

and no offense, I have seen several Indians at my workplace actually using Excel as word processor 🙂

it’s not the responsibility of the government to figure out how to retain Kuwaitis, private companies should be permitted to employ who they wish. If the goverment wishes to play social engineering with quotas then let it do so in the ever inefficent civil service. Spoon feeding and further indulging the culture of entitlement isn’t going to do anyone any favours.

The companies are owned by Kuwaitis who pay 0% Income tax, 0% Corporate tax, the least they could do is provide employment to nationals.

I’m a physician in mustawsif, employed recently. Seeing the number of sickleave requests on sundays and thursdays I doubt anything can be fixed if people work only 3 days a week. From my side I can only point out to girls/women that first day of period is not a reason to skip work, take a painkiller in the morning and go! For the guys…I have nothing…

if people really want to pull a sickie it`s their problem not ours or yours. However I have been known to say no on a regular basis. People rarely like me afterwards but it`s part and parcel of the job.

no body can fix anything in the “medical sector” here. Bottom line = if you have money go to a private hospital,, if you have no money take a chance at government hospitals,,, if you have LOTS of money grab the first flight to Wiesbaden and enjoy being treated!

I actually like this entry into the blog, and the way it was written I wouldn’t call it a rant at all.
He is concise and balanced and provides accomplishable and financially achievable corrections and methods to an effective and productive outcome to an area that will benefit the entire country from expats to Kuwaitis.

Nice work that man.

Yes, I do live abroad at the moment, however I’d say I’ve spent most of my professional career in Kuwait and have a relatively good idea of how little things have changed since I traveled abroad.

What’s also typical is how quickly you point that out. I’m a Kuwaiti living abroad and that makes my opinion less important than that of a westerner in my field commenting on the state of things.

Kuwait Medical Tourism was hosted at Crowne Plaza last week, not sure what kind of tourism they really meant, probably outgoing medical tourism?

Nice to see that you enjoy writing like your dad, Dr Zaid. Try to have a more positive tone next time insha Allah

“than I am to see the ministry of health manage a cloud based patient filing system.” – This system had been in the forefront of my thoughts and I wanted to bring it to the attention to one of the authorities in the MOH since I arrived here in 2004! No one wanted to listen.

Because if such does get implemented Kuwaitis will not be able to do their jobs, as in just sit there, thumb away on their phones, sip their coffee or tea, talk away and IF need be, sign the document in question.

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