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Getting government related paperwork done can be such an emotional roller coaster. I got a new passport yesterday and all I had to do was move my residency from the old passport to the new one and the processes was just so exhausting. I originally went to the Hawalli Immigration office who then told me to go the Kuwait City office who then told me to go back to the Hawalli office. I was like no way, I just came from there and they said I needed to get the transfer done here. I was then sent from one person to another, to another, to another and had to do lots of pointless waiting around before I finally ended up in a room by myself with all hope lost of getting my stuff done before I travel in a few days. Then suddenly out of the blue, a guy randomly walked in, looked at my papers, signed them, called someone in another department and then sent me to him to get the papers processed. Just like that by mere coincidence I was done.

It’s insane, you literally have to walk on egg shells every time you get sent to someone to get a signature or a stamp. You have to hope they’re in a good mood, you need to make sure you don’t do anything that might aggravate them like stand too close to the desk or interrupt them while they’re whatsapping. It feels like you need a favor from every person you need a signature or stamp from. I hate it.

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On the bright side, not sure if many of you know about this but there is a half decent government website with information and forms you need to get various jobs done. It’s the Kuwait Government Online website and the section I’m talking about is called Citizens & Residents. Check it out [Here]

210 replies on “Getting paperwork done in Kuwait”

Omg I cudnt believe the coincidence that you posted this today, I had to do the exact same thing today and I have been dancing between the immigration office to foreign affairs to fingerprint offices, I just need to trasfer my residence from my indian to portuguese and its still not done and the experience has been hellish.

Mine was a pretty straight forward process.
1 – Go to Immigration with supporting your attested NOC’s from both embassies along with supporting docs including a application from your company stating nationality change (make sure you’re NOC’s are attested by Foreign affairs before you do this)
2 – Get the application stamped and signed by the cop upstairs and proceed with this for fingerprints in your relevant governate. Collect the report back in a week’s time.
3 – Give everything back to your company mandoup who will proceed transfer of residency within a day or two.
I take it you went to Immigration without attesting your NOC’s in the first place?

Hello…I’m about to get my portuguese passport…can u tel me the formalities for change of nationality in kuwait?..I work for ministry of health. ..

Not to rub it in, but to do immigration paperwork done in Dubai is so easy and as a woman, we have a woman’s section which also the bomb. If Kuwait spent a week at the immigration office in Dubai, they would know how to organize their system. Oh, did I say the word system? The only downfall is the typing centers which are run by sub-continent workers, that is a nightmare. The equipment is modern and there is a LTC who walks around the workers making sure they are doing their job if you go to the men’s section.

It’s a government office and this is the same everywhere in all countries.

If you go to countries like India , you will literally have to shoot the officials for the attitude they show you.

You haven’t been to a government office in India, lately, have you?? Efficiency rates have increased in the past 24 months across all civic, state and central offices; all thanks to
The RTI (right to information) Law. If anyone faces impediments in any government or private or public private partnerships (PPP) models, all it takes is a 10 Rupees Non Judicial Stamp Paper and voila 30 days you get your reply and subsequently your work is done too!

There have been cases where pay or wages of such erring and inefficient staff have been withheld by the State government (New Delhi) just because people have filed RTI’s.
Please see I mentioned people not citizens in my comment – reason being expats in India (a good number) can file RTI’s too!

Hey man, at least they didn’t tell you to go to Ahmadi like they told me last time. I went from Kuwait City > Shuwaikh > Ahmadi – where they told me to go to Shuwaikh and I just stood there and told this lady I just came from Shuwaikh.

She then took my papers, and then two minutes later it was done.

Go figure.

One blessing of my workplace is that they take care of this paperwork for you.

The government website is great; but only if you use Windows. if you are like me and want to use their services and are on a mac or use Chrome, good luck. Try checking your fines for traffic. It does not work from e.gov.kw, but at least it works if you go to moi.gov.kw.

Again, go figure.

Ugh I remember when I went its like you need to kiss thier feet to do something . Horrible treatment really need to do something like orgsnise and really whts up with the atiitude these people working there I haven’t seen one de ent person

Someone should start a company or something specialized in wasta. They charge a small fee and all your work is done from one place. That is the solution i see in the current scenario since the whole system cant be changed, we can use wasta as a plugin that makes everyone but us happy.

Getting a driving licence is also like winning a lottery here.

This leads to the lack of innovations and inventions that makes a society better.

Don’t expect change till the batteries die off

You hit the nail on the spot. It’s exactly like that. The sick feeling you get like they’re doing you a favor and the way you have to be quite and not talk for fear a misinterpreted word would mess the whole thing.

Summing up the experience, it’s like you walk in with a huge guilt already and you have to be grateful that they’re allowing you to get what you came for.

Nasty. In other words: halaga!

I was just going to say – as bad as it is, non arabic speakers and people of ‘less preferred nationalities’ don’t just get this – they get yelled at, screamed at and ignored for hours on end… It’s a shitty, racist system.

cough cough … system overhaul.

it is not about racism.some people from the countries that you call `less preferred nationalities` act like kids.
the guy says do not use ur mobile phone in here and the bitchie guy keeps talking an talking as if he is barack obama.what the fuck?you are there to solve your problem.why do you make the policeman angry by talking and talking.so when his turn comes, policeman ignores him.thats the way it is whereever you go on the world.they have big warning boards at the gate of koc.do not bring your mobile phones inside refinery, no camera, no usb, no electronics.and tataaaaa many stupid guys are beging caught with lighters and then they beg the policemen for hours.you need wasta there? no.you just have to be a bit more careful.kuwait is a country where you can live in peace and have respect if you respect others as well.if you act like you are a 5 years old kid, for sure you will be ignored and shouted at.that is no racism…

um okaaaaaaay? Kuwait is one of the most racist countries I have EVERY been to. It might take you getting out there and asking people their experiences for you to know that – but hey that’s okay. stick to the diwaniya and tell yourself and your mates its all good. Clearly you are talking about a particular case and are intent that no one smear Kuwait as being any different than any other country in the world. Old tactic man and clearly see through.

And unless you are from a less preferred nationality then I don’t think are able to accurately discern how the masses are treated in Kuwait.

I had to laugh that you think is a place you can live in peace. You are most definitely delusional

lol 😀 first of all, what you think about diwaniya is totally different than what it exactly is.but i am not going into that subject to make things less complicated.

about racism in here-kuwait
i have never seen someone being beaten to death because he is black or white.i have never seen someone who was beaten to death because he is egyptian or iraqi or iranian or pakistani.or even indian.people from all around the world, from different countries, religions and many other things…come here to work, they work and they have a better life.sometimes they go back and sometimes they do not.we say nothing about that.

if we were racist…we would not bring you to work in our country man.see?

it is just related with you and your actions and behaviours.we are responding to you as you deserve.if you respect us, we do respect you in return and we treat you as best as we can.because we are hospitable people 😉

if you do not respect us and think that we are shit, we treat you as a piece of shit.thats the way it is.

i think that you do not read about black guys being killed in the states just because of their race, or people who are being killed in africa or asia just because of their religions.or people in china just because of their race.then you come to kuwait and call it racist.to hell with it.i would only lmao at that 😀

dude you are one delusional dude. Thank God I know Kuwaitis are who so completely the opposite of you in terms of awareness… otherwise I’d have given up ages ago.

Anyhow – believe what you want. It doesn’t change reality

You reallu dont knos the meaning of racism do you? Racisim doesnt mean killing someone because of your race. Educate yourself with the real meaning of racism buddy

Kuwait is NOT a racist country.

You’re just bitter because there isn’t legal booze in Kuwait

In the end, all you expats are bitching about Kuwait because you want CHEAP BOOZE

It all comes down to booze

heheh i love how the argument against Kuwait being one of THE most racist countries is that we are bitter about booze. Buddy its not that difficult to get booze here …
doesn’t make Kuwait any less of a slave state with rampant racism in the workplace, in the govt and pretty much everywhere else. You must be pretty blind to not know that racism even happens WITHIN Kuwaiti society.

racially-based salary.Proposals for different clinic times for kuwaitis and expats. Knowing that certain nationalities will be hired only for certain jobs. The phrase’ Im kuwaiti, what are you going to do about it’

You’re either blind or – well let’s just leave it at that shall we?

Go to Kuwait City – check out Salhiya complex – walk two minutes past coffeebean and tea leaf – your kuwaitiness will stop you dead in your tracks 🙂 there’s an invisible forcefield of expatness in that area that keeps kuwaitis on one side and expats on the other. Not saying any individual in that area is racist – saying that the whole racist SYSTEM of Kuwait prevents that mixing.

So yes – Kuwat is racist, very very racist. But not all Kuwaitis are – for sure.

Many Kuwaitis have expat friends.

Kuwaitis originate from different countries around the world, there are many Kuwaitis who originally aren’t Arabs

You are generalizing about 1.2 million people.

Yes I know racism exists WITHIN Kuwaiti society, ”Kuwaiti” isn’t a race. Kuwaitis have different ethnic origins so it’s only natural that some Kuwaitis are racist to other Kuwaitis

Nationality-based salaries and certain nationalities hired only for certain jobs – all of this is common EVERYWHERE in the 3rd world

Kuwait is a 3rd world country and in most 3rd world countries, there are nationality-based salaries

If you don’t like this, move to a first world country

ok I’m done here with this one – but no, racially based salaries are not everywhere in the 3rd world – I have lived in 4 different third world countries and that was not the case. And by the way, EVEN If it was, that would make all those places racist … not remove Kuwait’s rampant racism.

And by the way saying ‘but they’re doing it to’ doesnt solve any problems. it’s schoolyard attitude. We should all be more mature than that one hopes

your silly…no one even mentioned booze.

Kuwait just needs to rethink somethings like many places.

You have one phone to MOI and it doesnt work
if you go there in person noone will speak to you unless your speaking Arabic.

when u call places here the people are rude

they drive like no one else is on the road.

I think 1 person dies a day on the roads here.

you want to charge crazy prcies for rent but you don’t keeo the building up.

You keep building apartment building yet theres barely any entertainment venues.

You make it hard for people to get visa’s here but why

You should be happy anyone wants to come.

compared to the places around you like Dubai, bahrain etc…. you don’t have much to offer.

Again no one cares about booze… I would be so scared to go outside if kuwait had booze everywhere…think about driving omg
no one would be safe.

you want to charge high

wasta was in good old days buddy.it is not as useful as it was once.wasta became a myth which is like a huge wall where all the expats can hide behind.they fail the driving license test and blame our system that only wasta can get them a license.or they dont want to wait on the line when they go to a government office and they hide behind wasta thing.they complain like an old woman and say
“oh i do not have wasta so i cannot get this job done.”

I must be lucky. My wife and daughter have had no problems either renewing or transferring residency to a new passport. She says she’s done in 15 minutes and finds the “Ladies of Ahmadi” to be pleasant. Can’t speak of personal experience as my Company has a guy that does all that.

lol, dude everyone goes through the same sheeeeyt–its predictable even–they love the ping-pong game, and your the poor ball

basically the rule of the game is to make you someone else’s problem (or some other wizara’s problem)…until you are exhausted and utterly frustrated..then someone comes along and says oh sure, here..signed ..done take care :S :S

you must miss how smooth things are in canada

ahhhhh…
i hate to say that but i suppose that i have to say it to you all…
THIS IS KUWAIT GUYS.IF YOU LIKE IT,ENJOY IT.IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT…GET THE FUCK OUT OF IT… :p

I rarely hear that statement from anybody nowadays especially about the government officials. Nobody likes them Kuwaiti or not

then do not complain man.what the hell?you earn money here and have a good life.this is why you are here.and you expect to be treated like henry 5th? lol.
if you hate it here and feel so unhappy, and still lock down yourself into your hell…thats only your problem.do not give us a headache.
if you really want to save urself? just…
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE :p
so you will have nothing to complain about.oh no…then maybe you will be jobless in landan 😀

you seem to know my life so well in that you think i have a good life here.

But anyways I reserve my right to stay on here, do exactly as I am doing now, and bitch about Kuwait. again. Sorry its not to your liking – but hey again in your same vein of thinking – don’t like it? leave … at least the blog!

@Seaduke

I don’t know if you’re Kuwaiti or not, but that’s certainly not an attitude anyone would like hearing.

As for me, i’m a Kuwaiti, and i have to deal with similar horror stories.

Telling almost 100% of the population that is dissatisfied with the level of mistreatment to get out is ridiculous.

In fact, maybe you should get out, because you sound just like the unhelpful people at the government offices that we complain about.

Go with peace.

Nope i dont. Just u sound like one of them. There is the same problem all around the world. These ppl come from different countries to Kuwait and they just want to be treated as prince and princesses. And when they r not being treated so, they just blame Kuwait. Thats pretty stupid.

No… They just want to be treated equally, like how everyone is treated equally in the US, UK, Australia, or any other place in the world. Once we start treating everyone equally, then maybe our nation will go back to what it used to be

equality?
i have been to every point of kuwait.i have never seen a signboard which says…
“foreigners are not allowed to go inside”
they are free to do whatever they want.i know foreigners who drive bentleys in kuwait.they go to fancy restaurants.they do whatever they want just like we do.
and you think that they are not equally treated.shit…
world changed.everything depends on money.you have to keep that in your mind.if you have money, you will be treatead good in usa or in uk.but if you do not have money in uk or usa, they will spit on your face and kick you out of their country.
i went to many countries in europe.when the man or woman at the passport control notices that i am from middle east, he/she asks me why i am in their country.then asks me if i do have money.once in poland, i insisted and did not show my money to her 😀 she asked me maybe 10 times and at the end she called her supervisor.they took me into another room and kept asking some questions.where will you go? do you have money to go to these places? where will you stay? and when i opened my wallet after 20 mins, they just said sorry sir.here are your documents.welcome to poland.
just like that.if you have money to have a good life in kuwait as an expat, you already have a decent life.you send your kids to private schools, live in villas with swimming pools and drive luxury cars.then yell around and complain how bad kuwait is.
lol.

Seaduke, your right money talks, but thats not what im talking about , im talking about the discrimination towards poor expats, people without money are treated equally to people with money in the US for example. Why should people without money be treated badly?! Why should people that dont speak arabic be treated like shit?! So what if they dont speak arabic, should they be treated like a herd of sheeps? They come here looking for a better life, in return they get treated as shit, people who are young enough to be their sons, talk to them like their nothing, like their not a human being.

oh please, you are over exaggerating

most kuwaitis dont treat expats like shit

you need to STOP exaggerating

dude youre retarded – this is standard in most countries where they want to make sure yo uare not going to be living off of THEIR resources by running away. Of course they want you to spend money – but also not live off of theirs. That’s what ALL countries are like. you really are a twat

qabazard I guarantee you if we were face to face and i explained things – you would understand. But as it is, I am not willing to spill out my experiences or those of ALL my expat friends – white, yellow, brown, black whatever…

You can stay in denial or go out there are find out what’s happening. I guarantee you it wont be hard to find.

Some key words to help you. withheld passports, withheld salaries, shitty housing, unfed maids, abused maids, raped maids, beaten construction workers, unfair working hours and conditions, racially based salary scales, corrupt businesses.

I am not going to say you are racist, or a bad person – but you might be going off of the experiences of a few people in your circle. Expats, for better or worse are the majority of your country’s population – and when it comes to relating experiences – your opinion is the minority and doesnt carry as much weight as those of the expats.

Money, and Kuwaiti nationality doesnt make your opinion reality.

If you have the wastha

Go visit the shelter in the philippines embassy and ask the women there (hundreds) about their experiences. Go to the Indian embassy and ask about the body counts connected with construction work here … if you really want to find out what goes on in Kuwait, go to Hawalli where women are made to sit outside the contracting offices till someone comes by and selects one they want for a maid. From a well known Kuwait I got these words ‘yeah sometimes policemen come, pick a girl, and return her a while later.’ And im only going to say policemen cus you dont want to know who else does that.

GO out there, find out. dont stay in denial – if you love your country, find out things and change them – dont deny them

Most expats in Kuwait aren’t maids

Most Kuwaitis don’t abuse house maids

Most Kuwaitis don’t starve maids, abuse maids and rape maids

Racially-based salary scales are very common in the 3rd world. Kuwait is a 3rd world country.

Shitty housing? The expat housing in Kuwait is much better than elsewhere in the 3rd world

Most Kuwaitis don’t beat construction workers

Most Kuwaitis don’t abuse house maids (beat, rape, starve)

You are generalizing.

Most Kuwaiti policemen don’t ”sometimes come, pick a maid, and return her a while later”. This isn’t common and not something that occurs very often

The body count of construction workers in Kuwait is far smaller than the body counts in the rest of the GCC. Kuwait has the lowest body count in the GCC.

that last comment really boils my blood, I hope the next time this dude goes to another country, let’s say America or “Landan”, they treat him like garbage (which they probably won’t) & then tell him “THIS IS MY COUNTRY, IF YOU LIKE IT, ENJOY IT, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT…….GET THE FUCK OUT”

hahaha Oren 😀 money talks baby.so do not worry.when i go to “landan” or to states, only missing thing is a red carpet 😀 lol at ya!!! 😀

well my friend – you should know – in Turkey where I stayed, the hotel said they do NOT allow Kuwaitis at the hotel and tonnes of bars and pubs in the area I frequent don’t serve GCC citizens.

Thailand has stopped direct flights between Kuwait and Bangkok because they can’t be arsed to have obnoxious people around all the time. And london btw, don’t know if youve heard – but they let in ANYONE :P.

You’re not special cus you got money. sorry about that

i do not like london personally 😀 i said london because oren was mentioning it as landan.as if all kuwaitis mispronounce the name of city.
this is a funny idea of his anyways.
who cares about turkey and thailand btw 🙂
and another thing.Kuwaitis mostly do not stay in 3 star hotels.maybe thats why your hotel was pretending to be snob. 😀 there are lots of hotels in istanbul which will welcome Kuwaitis.I personally spent a week in swiss hotel bosphorus last summer and they were treating me as if i am the owner of the hotel. 🙂 so please do not worry about us 🙂

I dont know if you are making this ups or you know for a fact but your info are totaly false, direct flight still exist between KUW and BKK as evidence in this link

Book a flight to Suvarnabhumi Airport (BKK)
https://www.kayak.com/flights/KWI-BKK/2014-05-01/2014-05-15/

And no as a frequent traveller to diffrent areas in Turkey, no there is no such think called hotels and bars nit serving to Kuwaitis and GCC citizen 🙂

Your anger and hate cloud your judgement and makes you say things you dont mean just to win an argument.

Have a nice life in our rich country 🙂

I totally agree with my brother Yousef 🙂 this is just anger and jealousy which clouds your vision.
You are all complaining about racism etc… Do u know what happens when a poorer arab from yemen or egypt flies to usaor uk? Do u think that they can fly to these countries.?

You are lying.

There are direct flights between Kuwait and Bangkok

99.9% OF bars and pubs in Turkey serve Kuwaitis

Kuwaitis don’t have a bad reputation in the bars, pubs and nightclubs of Turkey

Kuwaitis don’t have a bad reputation in Turkey in GENERAL

lol. dude word for word ‘Yeah people in Turkey hate Kuwaitis. We spit in their food’

I just asked my friend in Istanbul. Seriously – I have plenty of Kuwaiti friends (the slightly less delusional kind) but I don’t think Turkey has the same attitude I do.

The official thai airline has stopped direct flights (obviously they cant do anything about other airlines)

Most Kuwaitis don’t visit Turkey. Turkey isn’t a very popular destination among Kuwaitis.

Turks hate Arabs due to racism and Turkish people believe GCC citizens are all the same so if they said they hate Kuwaitis, then it’s due to racist misconceptions (probably bad experience with Saudis)

You are generalizing.

alright man like i said – believe what you want. It’s obvious that if the whole world stood up and said Kuwait is racist, you would call the whole world racist. So Believe what you want to believe

oh so you’re saying that Kuwait only respects people with money like you? so the poor millions of South Asians here should suffer because they have no money. no one here agrees with you. we do not think it’s alright for people to suffer just because they don’t have money.

noooope.i definitely did not mean this.i just said that in the countries that we visit, money talks.when they understand that you have money, they would even lick your arse to get a bit more tip.
but here in Kuwait it is not that way.A Kuwaiti would not care about another Kuwaitis money.because they both are rich.so they do not need to lick each others arses.thats what i am trying to tell you.
because of that reason, in the countries that i visit, they will never treat me like i am a garbage.or they will never say get the fuck out.
they will say, next time you come, we will give you vip service in case you stay with us again and they will even transport our cars for free if we book their best room.
so what i said and you understood are different things.

There are only 600,000 South Asians in Kuwait and not all of them are ”poor”.

The South Asians in Kuwait aren’t suffering like they suffer in South Asia

Kuwait is heaven for them compared to South Asia

are you mental?

I like how you can make awesomely general statements about ‘600 000 South Asians’ and their happiness in your country versus theirs.

And dude I dont think ANYONE thinks Kuwait is heaven. Not even most kuwaitis

You clearly don’t know about the situation in South Asia

In South Asia, those same South Asian immigrants are treated like cattle by fellow South Asians

India has a very cruel Apartheid system known as the ”Caste system” in which 60% of the population is extremely discriminated (some of them are called ”Untouchables” and degraded in every aspect of life, they’re not allowed to breathe the same air as upper caste Indians).

The caste system is much everything than anything in Kuwait

So, because of the caste system, all we have to do is to treat them a little “better”? Is that the extend of your ambition for what Kuwait should be?

How sad.

hahaha Oren 😀 money talks baby 😀 when i go to “landan” or to the states, only missing thing is the red carpet and a band 😀 so do not worry.it will never happen to me
and as i told before…if you do not like the way it is in Kuwait…then you can get THE FUCK OUT.anytime you want 😀

do you think that i do care whether you respect this mentality or not? what do you do for yourself man? i hear some people complaining how people from their nation is being treated. this is really interesting tho. it is all about being educated. i do not want to insult any nation and it’s citizens so i will only use X as example.

for example there are people who are from X and they are being treated really badly because they are not educated.they do not obey the rules.even when they go to the fucking hospital, only thing they do is talking talking talking.talking to you, me anybody they see.if they do not see anybody then they start to talk by phone.so the kuwaiti men come and start to shout.security treats them badly.

on the other hand…there are people from same nation X.they work in KOC, KNPC or any other big kuwaiti organization as managers, chiefs.

so what are you talking about? what are you trying to explain me?

go back to your countries.invest in education and bring all people to same level.then when you are back all together, you all will be treated same.

if you will always complain, do nothing to improve yourself, what i am gonna say will never change.get the fuck out of kuwait and go back to your sweet country if you do not like it.

yep well said Andy. yes there are such things as hotels that don’t serve Kuwaitis. I had a friend tell me that two kuwaitis came to istanbul and in a club they were bothering ppl – sams shit i hear here – we got money we are kuwaiti blah blah blah – well those two got beaten the shit out of by ppl in the club. Guess they learned their lesson. THere is a world of difference between the Kuwaiti nationalists on this blog and the regular decent ppl i come across everyday.

And fyi – i WILL choose to stay here and complain. just deal with it. dont like it? GTFO – dont want to leave kuwait? then GTFO the blog. It’s a free blogosphere.

and finally – i was born here – Im an expat and i have plenty of money (not that that matters) but it still seems to make some ppl bigger assholes than others. nuff said

so what? nothing at all. There was a comment earlier saying I had just moved to Kuwait which is not the case … and references made to low income expats. I’m not one of them – I’ve been fortunate. But that doesn’t HAVE to make me an asshole. That’s all I was saying

that being said though, I think the woman who handled my Civil ID the last time I was in the Public Authority of Civil Information office in Surra was immensely sweet, helpful & courteous. off topic, I loved her Betty Boop collection too.

As an expat, every time I need to get some official paperwork done for me of the family, I end up getting the jitters, butterflies etc in my stomach. I get so nervous, I’d actually feel like puking! I always worry about them wanting some new paperwork that I don’t have etc etc.. or worse, some rule change that was not there previously! Luckily some form or the other things get done, living on a prayer mostly!

Hai Mark, Congratulations for the new Canadian Passport. BTW, how are you maintaining Canadian citizenship without being present physically in Canada for minimum required stay?

Hey Mark,

Have a lot of similar experiences myself.

Atleast, you do know Arabic and you follow what they are saying and have a conversation and reason with them.

Just think of the people, who don’t know Arabic & they literally go to hell and back to get their Administration / Paper work done here in Kuwait.

Once I saw a passport flying through the hall , because the person applying for something , did not understand what the person behind the counter was saying…

Try beating that !!!

I match your flying passport and raise you an application being torn , a yallla baara eemshi.. and a crying Srilankan lady expat (Shuwaikh Passport Offices 26 June ,2013)

Mark i wish that you posted that on forum so we could read all comments in an order.that sucks man.how am i supposed to know which comment is the latest one or new and which ones are the old ones

This is an inborn nature. They can not change it.

They need to feel superior and they will ignore / mistreat us. The same is done also in government hospitals when we go for appointments. They just ignore us. There is nothing anyone can do about it.

This is Kuwait and like someone said above , if you don’t like it you can leave. No one is forcing you to be here with this treatment.

you’ve obviously not heard of withheld passports or travel bans or suchlike. Just cus you have an experience, don’t transplant that on to other people.

And hey if you don’t like that people are complaining – YOU can leave.

ahahaha 😀 you are pretty smart 😀 we were born here and you were just moved here.you are the ones who complain about the weather, local people, traditions and the lack of alcohol etc.but still you suggest us to leave.what a great idea 😀 if we leave and you stay, 50 years later you would mess this land and come to the place that we go to get jobs and a better life :p

You just hate Kuwait because of the ”lack” of alcohol. There is a black market, you know.

You CAN leave Kuwait if you don’t like Kuwait

Leave, please

Read the posts carefully, half of the posts here were written by Kuwaitis, are you telling them to leave too? who are you to tell other Kuwaitis to leave? every country in the world has changed & evolved, America used to segregate between blacks & whites 60 years ago, now they have a black president. These Kuwaitis just want to see change in their country & they are standing by the foreigners because it is the foreigners who are providing menial labor work. If all the foreigners left, who will serve you coffee in Caribou or Starbucks or whatever or grill you a burger in McDonalds or make you shawerma, who? Who will fix your car? Kuwaitis? Forget labor, what about corporate jobs? Most of the offices of companies in Kuwait have FOREIGN employees, accountants, HR Officers, Procurement, you name it, they are & have always been contributing to the economic growth of Kuwait. They don’t hate Kuwait, they want to stay & do their part for the country but they want to see change & so do many of the Kuwaitis who posted on here. Read the posts.

Kuwait isn’t no where NEAR as bad as America during the Segregation period

Kuwait has the most freedom of press in the Middle East and Arab world

Kuwait is the freest country in the Middle East region in freedom of press.

Kuwaiti society is the least conservative society in the Arabian Peninsula

You simply can’t compare Kuwait’s current situation to America when they racially segregated people

Kuwait has the most freedom of speech, freedom of press, civil liberties and political rights in the Arabian Peninsula

Kuwait is one of the few Middle East countries that’s ranked Partly Free in Freedom House’s ‘Freedom in the World’ report. 96% of countries in the Middle East and Arab world were ranked NOT FREE.

uuuuuh – least conservative? I dunno maybe im wrong but arent bahrain and the uae part of the peninsula?

OH and Kuwait is great at doctoring figures for the international community. Money can buy great stats!

Emirati society is much more conservative than Kuwaiti society.

99.9% of Emirati women wear the black abaya because in Emirati society, it isn’t socially acceptable for Emirati women to wear Western style clothes.

When an Emirati girl doesn’t wear the black abaya in public, she is labeled a slut

In Kuwaiti society, it is common for local women to wear Western style clothes and Kuwaiti women aren’t socially obligated to wear the black abaya, unlike Emirati women

Bahraini society is also more conservative than Kuwaiti society. Kuwaitis and Bahrianis are the most liberal Gulf Arabs but Kuwaiti society is more liberal than Bahriani society

Bahrain doesn’t have oil and they need to diversify their economy quickly so they have legal booze and nightclubs. If Bahrain had a real parliamentary system like Kuwait, Bahrain wouldn’t have nightclubs. Bahrain is more undemocratic than Kuwait

If UAE had a real parliament like Kuwait, UAE wouldn’t have legal booze and nightclubs.

The autocratic government of UAE legalized booze – this doesn’t indicate how liberal/conservative a society is because UAE is a very undemocratic autocracy. Kuwait isn’t an absolute monarchy like UAE

The governments of UAE and Bahrain are trying to diversify their economies quickly. The legalization of booze and nightclubs isn’t an indicator of how liberal a society is

UAE and Bahrain are much more undemocratic than Kuwait.

Kuwait isn’t buying great stats

Reporters without Borders and Freedom House don’t LIE about stats and they don’t accept bribes

You’re too hateful so you’re resorting to making up a conspiracy theoriy

Most of the posts weren’t written by Kuwaitis

All the posts complaining about Kuwait were written by arrogant Westerners who are just bitter because they don’t have legal booze and nightclubs. All they care about is BOOZE.. lol

Tara there’s a black market, if you want booze, go to the black market instead of bitching all day about Kuwait

Many of the people here complaining about Kuwait mentioned booze

Look at the other comments, in most cases they talk about ”no alcohol”

the foreigners sitting next to me right now are actually counting their blessings that the availability of booze in Kuwait is restricted since the number of traffic deaths in Kuwait is already the highest in the world, according to Kuwait Times newspaper & Al Qabas. imagine if there was booze in Kuwait, we’d all be road kill by now haha. I too am thankful that there’s no booze here. It’s definitely not a problem for me. Have a great weekend man, I seldom argue with people online cause people can be vicious behind their keyboard, you’re not, I’m sure you’re a nice guy, we just disagree on a few things. Alright, I’m off, bye, have a great weekend!

yea sometimes real assholes are being born in here :p mostly expats :p lol i am kidding man 😀 happy easter to the ones who celebrate it 🙂

@Jiminy : Would you like to elaborate on the authenticity of the travel bans ? Are you aware of how many innocent expats / citizens have to pay for mobile phone bills which are not theirs , even such people have travel bans.

FYI , I am leaving this messed up place. I am not going to contribute for the development of this country. I might as well do it in my own country where I get more respect.

i am not gonna discuss about my iq with you.and i do not care whether you give up on me or not.and i do not care what you think about me.
i just advice you that it is better getting the fuck out of this beautiful country if you are unhappy here 🙂

I stopped dealing with these people long time ago; now I am willing to pay a mandoob 30-50KD to get the transaction done for me. Not the cheapest, but peace of mind. The civil ID and passports picked up and dropped off at my house. I even forgot how the immigration place looks like.

Regarding the goverment websites, last month I’ve checked to find out what is required to renew a driving licence. When I went with the documents listed on the website, they asked for 4 more and when I asked them why they don’t mentioned all of them on their website the answer was that the website is only for Kuwaitis (even though in English). ALSO, I was told that I came too early because mornings are reserved only for Kuwaitis and 2-6 PM for expats.

my advice to Lela:

do not go early next time gal.just take your time, have a brunch and when the clock shows 15:00, go there with your documents 😉 it is that simple 🙂

i really do not understand people bithcing around and saying

-ah they do not even allow alcohol being sold in the markets
-weather sucks in here.i hate sandstorms and hot weather
-there is no fun in kuwait.
-there is nothing to do in kuwait
-kuwait is expensive.i do not like this place
-kuwaiti people are so rude
-holly shit.i have seen a cockroach.kuwait is so dirty
-there are no night clubs in kuwait

WUUUUUTTTTTT????

did we promise you las vegas????

what do you want from us guys?we didnt make the country to entertain you.if you do not like it.i told you what you are supposed to do 🙂

PLEASE,

All the foreigners in Kuwait who don’t like Kuwait, PLEASE leave. DO us all a favor, just LEAVE!

Please!

those guys who do not like Kuwait and complain about high rents, dirts streets, conservative community, racist local people, bad climate with its sandstorms and extremely hot weather, polluted water, low salaries, and blah blah blah.

YOU LIVE ONLY ONCE.YOU DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO COME TO EARTH.THIS IS YOUR ONLY CHANCE TO LIVE YOUR LIFE AND BE HAPPY.

do not waste your sweet lives in such a hell. 🙂

Kuwaiti society is the least conservative Gulf Arab society.

99.9% of Emirati women wear the black abaya and sheyla. 99.9% of Qatari women wear the black abaya and niqab. 99.9% of Saudi, Bahraini and Omani women wear the black abaya.

Do the majority of Kuwaiti women wear the niqab and black abaya? No

In Emirati and Qatari society, it’s not socially acceptable for women to wear anything but the black abaya.

Qatari and Emirati females are obliged to wear the black abaya due to their society’s rules. When an Emirati/Qatari girl doesn’t wear the black abaya, she is labeled a slut by society.

Kuwaiti society doesn’t oblige Kuwaiti women to wear the black abaya.

Emirati society is far more conservative than Kuwaiti society. UAE doesn’t have political participation among its citizens so UAE has legal booze. If UAE has a real parliament, there would be no legal booze in UAE!

Emiratis and Qataris are much more religious than Kuwaitis.

In Kuwaiti society, it is socially acceptable and very common for Kuwaiti women to wear Western style clothes.

In Emirati and Qatari societies, it is uncommon for local women to wear Western style clothes because Qatari/Emirati societies are much more conservative than Kuwaiti society

If Qatar and UAE had a real parliament like Kuwait, there would be no legal booze in UAE/Qatar.

Kuwaiti society is the least conservative society in the Arabian Gulf and Arabian Peninsula.

brother i do not compare kuwait with qatar or emirates.i know the difference between them.i just wanted to underline that most foreigners think that kuwaiti people are conservative muslims when they are compared to north african arab countries or the people they do know from their own countries who are muslims.

Kuwaiti society is the most liberal Gulf society. Kuwait has the highest percentage of local women wearing Western clothes, highest percentage of citizens studying abroad in the West and highest percentage of local women who dont wear hijab. Out of all the Gulf states, Kuwait has the lowest percentage of local women wearing the black abaya.

In Qatari/Emirati/Omani societies, it’s socially unacceptable for local women to NOT wear the black abaya. Qatari/Emirati/Omani girls who don’t wear the black abaya are labeled sluts by their society, 99.9% of Qatari/Emirati/Omani women wear the black abaya.

On behalf of the vast majority of people on here, we all disagree with you, Seaduke. Let’s just agree to disagree. We can only hope that Kuwait strives to become a better country, all countries have their own respective issues but the difference between other countries & the GCC is that in other countries people have the freedom to speak up about pretty much anything. I for one had my own column in my college paper when I was in America where I very bluntly addressed a lot of problems I experienced in the country & NO ONE said to me “GET THE FUCK OUT” instead they thanked me profusely for my candor & even had me read my columns in various media & political science classes. The first step in solving a problem is acknowledging its existence. Living in denial will only make the problem worse. Lastly, I would just like to say that I find it hilarious that this whole time you thought I wasn’t Kuwaiti, well I am man. This is my country too & I will not “GET THE FUCK OUT”, thank you very much.

Kuwait has the most Freedom of Press and Freedom of Speech in the Middle East and Arab world

In 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014, Reporters without Borders ranked Kuwait the freest Middle East country in Freedom of Press

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Kuwait#Freedom_rankings

Kuwait is one of the few countries in the Middle East that is ranked Partly Free in Freedom House’s annual Freedom in the World report (based on civil liberties, freedom of speech and political rights). All the GCC states are ranked Not Free except Kuwait (which was ranked Partly Free). 95% of the Middle East was ranked Not Free.

this is from the exact link that YOU just used hahahaha.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Kuwait#Freedom_rankings

In June 2007, Kuwait was found to be one of the worst offenders in human trafficking according to a report issued by the United States Department of State. The finding was due to the Kuwait government’s repeated failure to tackle the problem. Some migrant workers are subjected to conditions of involuntary servitude by employers in Kuwait. The workers were subject to physical and sexual abuse, non-payment of wages, threats, confinement to the home, and withholding of passports to restrict their freedom of movement.[6][7]

I know about Kuwait’s recognized freedom of press & I personally think it’s wonderful, but then again though who in this country reads?……..there are over 40 Starbucks, 20 something Caribou, a million KFCs, Mickey D’s, Pizza Huts, Dominos, but only one bookstore in a mostly abandoned mall that people rarely if ever visit. Whenever I tell a Kuwaiti that I read books, newspapers, they laugh at me & say “fadee”…..what the…..as for the emancipation of women, I agree, I love the fact that there are very successful female CEOs in Kuwait……but every country has it’s upsides & downsides that need working on. That’s all people on here are saying. Do you see anyone on here saying “there’s absolutely nothing good about this country?” No.

to illustrate your freedom of press – hey does anyone find this often repeated phrase in t he english press

‘housemaid falls to death’

I find it hilarously sad and indicative of press freedom that the papers can’t say – Kuwaiti pushes maid out of window/Maid attempts suicide after being locked in room/ Maid falls to death after being made to clean outside of flat window at 5am in the morning.

Anyone who knows anything about the hundreds and hundreds of these cases – knows that ‘housemaid falls to death’ is sadly indicative of the press freedom in Kuwait

Kuwait still has the most Freedom of Press in the MENA region and Arab world

Kuwait is also one of the few countries in the Middle East and North Africa region that is ranked Partly Free by Freedom House’s Freedom in the World survey (based on civil liberties and political rights)

99.9% of the MENA region is ranked Not Free whereas Kuwait is ranked Partly Free. The rest of the GCC is ranked Not Free except for Kuwait

Most Kuwaitis aren’t pushing maids out of windows and in MOST cases, the house maid committed suicide. It’s not the Kuwaitis fault that the house maid committed suicide

Many house maids have un-diagnosed mental illnesses, so they commit suicide. Indonesia used to send women from Indonesian asylums and prisons as house maids to Kuwait

dude you are so delusonal it’s not even funny. I know people that work personally with the survivors… many have been pushed. Some have been starved. Some have been burned, sexually abused, beaten …

And I’m sure even you can see that most women GET their mental illnesses after being here. Who wouldn’t under those conditions.

There are enough high profile cases for you to be able to conclude that. If you still insist on thinking everyone else is nuts besides violent locals then … whatever man. Nothing can be done about that.

Mark, don’t you think that in this post the disclaimer posted below the comment box is not being followed.

P.S.

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P.P.S. Seaduke has made very valuable comments.

Dearest Fish…

While IRA was a terrorist group according to Brits, Irish guys were thinking that it is a republican revolutionary military organisation.

Maybe you do not like my comments because you are on the other side of the line, and maybe i was exaggerating a lot especially in some parts of my comments but for sure there is a huge reality in what i say.eventhough you make fun of it.

My father took 8 months to open his business in Kuwait due to all the paperwork.

When he went to Dubai to open a branch there he opened it in 2 hours. He thought the receptionist was joking when she said come back in 2 hours and all your paperwork will be done but when he did come back he was all set.

Whenever I do paperwork in the U.S. its in and out. Drivers License took less than 2 hours including the computer and driving test. Paperwork for houses at county offices all took less than an hour.

So why can’t Kuwait be like that?

And before captain ignorant Seaduke replies to my comment, I’m Kuwait and I’m not going anywhere.

feel free to start a new life either in dubai or states.and i am not ignorant.just telling you what you shall do if you are unhappy here.

All the facts and truth that makes Kuwait less desirable to many people:

– Ban on alcohol, night clubs and pork products
– Incredibly hot summers
– Severe sandstorms
– Top 10 most polluted air quality in the world
– Most corrupt country in the GCC
– Difficulty in conducting business
– Horrible traffic
– High cost of living for what you pay
– Lack of compassion, ignorance and respect to others by a large chunk of the population (I’m not singling out Kuwaitis!)
– Lack of cleanliness (just look at some blocks in Hawally, Salmiya and let’s not forget whole areas like Jeleeb)
– A government that has all the means to be successful but rather stay stagnant

I’m here for the money and experience (even if not a very pleasant one) and nobody is forcing me but will not come back after I pack my stuff and leave for good. I have lived in seven countries so far in my life and all still hold a place in my heart, for good and for bad and so will Kuwait as it is not all bad.

damn straight. And I for one could handle all the rest of it if the lack of compassion were just sorted out.

There is no ban on nightclubs but there is an ALCOHOL ban. If you want alcohol, go to the black market.

You can get alcohol in Kuwait, there is a famous black market

You can get pork products in Kuwait, there is a black market.

Please, stop pretending that you can’t have those things

There is the black market

You are a typical Westerner. All you care about is booze

The most important thing to you is booze

If you want booze, go to the black market. It’s very simple, go to the black market

Instead of bitching about Kuwait all day, just go to the black market

I doubt you have met that many Kuwaitis in your lifetime so please stop generalizing about 1.2 MILLION people. You can’t claim that most Kuwaitis are lacking compassion and disrespectful.

Kuwait is not the most corrupt country in the GCC

Stop making up shit

There was a Perceptions Corruption list based on 100 peoples perceptions, which placed Kuwait on top of corruption. Kuwait has never been on top of corruption in an actual legitimate survey on corruption in the GCC

Kuwait has the most transparent system in the GCC and most freedom of speech and freedom of press in the GCC

man who are you?ruler of the GCC countries?do not compare my country with someone elses country.compare it with your own country.corrupted india?or another one?

what are you guys blabbering about? 😀
can’t handle it? okay i will do a favor and buy your tickets as a gift :p

it is quite funny how you do not let my comments appear over there and let other people post their comments 🙂 i do not care at all.they do not get what i say.so you can delete them all.i dont mind.

what do you mean Tester?
i do not think that your real name is Tester 😀

as i wrote below.i am just a person who wants to show some people the right path.to the exit.

lol – case closed. Here’s a headline for Kuwait’s free press – ‘Yacht owner completely understands plight of street cleaners in Kuwait and remarks ‘it’s not so bad”

i really do not understand how you manage to do it, but you all built some strong walls around your brains which could not be taken down even with nuclear missiles.

i am not ignorant.i am not racist.i am not the things you called me above.

i am just a simple person who shows you the path to happiness.

if kuwait is such a hell, you suffer everyday you live in here, then just move to another place where you can find happiness.because you have limited time on earth.do not waste your only chance.

whatever you do…keep bitching around about kuwait, complain more and more or even cry.you cannot change kuwait and the system in here.do not pretend to be an idealist who thinks that he can spend his lifetime for his pinkish dreams.such as bringing a whole new system to the country.

as many already mentioned above…almost all expats in here are here for money and once they are done, they already go back.

@YousefQ8

so why Kuwait cannot be like that?

what an innocent question?pretty pollyanna-ish as well.

why innocent people are being killed without a reason everyday?
why there are wars?
why some people drive lamborghinis while others cannot even find bread to eat?
why some girls are being given away as a bride at the age of 12 by their families?

i wish that we could stop all the bad things.but then…this would not be world and life.this could be only heaven and after-life. 😉

Seaduke,

You are not a very bright person.

To everyone else,

We have some serious issues in the public services that our country provides. It is an accumulation of many decades of managers with the mentality of Seaduke running the public sector. I don’t know if things will improve any time soon, but I assure you that there are Kuwaitis who are trying to make things better.

Sami thanks for that – I know people like you and have since regained some hope that there will one day be equality and fairness in Kuwait.

@seaduke
Let’s meet for a chat a day after your Government scraps the cradle to grave welfare system… Don’t worry, check on me…

i suppose that mark did not like one of my comments and did not publish it so i will write it in a more polite way.

first of all, there is no from craddle to grave welfare system in kuwait.we work hard and do our best to pay for our villas, cars and the luxury we have.hardness depends on your job and style.if you work as a ceo, stress is the main thing which makes your job harder.if you are a labour then working under the sun all day long during summer might be the hardest part of your job.so do not dare criticizing how hard we work.

second thing is…i want to tell something to these sweet and kind kuwaitis such as sami who commented above.and farah maybe.and to all others whom i cannot remember their names.
those people who blame kuwaitis for being rude and racist and ignorant are here to work and earn some money.they mostly envy you and we even witnessed that a kuwaiti girl has been murdered by a jealous maid.as i mentioned above, they are here for their own profits.kuwait do not tax them, kuwait has oil and pay them good salaries and make them rich, they feel safe in kuwait.because there is peace in kuwait for the moment.
but once the oil is finished, money is over, or the peace is gone and poverty and crime takes place or even war, be sure that they will flee.and you will be left in kuwait with us, with your brothers and sisters, just like it once happened.so i appreciate your kindness and sweetness.please keep being so.

dude. I don’t understand you – do you know HOW MANY MAIDS were murdered my Kuwaitis before this happened?

Yes some maids are jealous, evil, resentful. And some fight back when they are being abused (GOd forbid)

But don’t for a second portray Kuwaitis as generally being a hard working race – your fathers fathers maybe but the last two generations wouldnt know hard work if it bit them on the kaboose. Yes there are Kuwaitis who are proactively getting into the workforce, working long hours, some getting involved in kuwaiti and expat equality, some fighting for labourer rights and some even peeling potatoes in Kitchens far away from judgemental eyes. But that’s because they know that the past has been full of very lousy work ethic and are doing something to correct it. Denial will NEVER be the way forward and throughout history it never has.

And ummm yes Kuwait does have a cradle to grave welfare system. youre just probably too spoiled too realise that thats what it is – you’re probably the sort of person who protested asking the government to pay off your loans. That sort of thinking is what could have destroyed Kuwait if it wasnt for the fair and bright minds around today.

So thank GOd for people like Farah and Sami. And no I am not jealous of wealth. I know some are – but I am actually one of those people that are happy enough with a solid roof over my head, decent food to eat, friends around me and a deeper purpose in life. Money has always gotten in the way of things for me and sometimes I honestly view people with that much money as having a harder time having the quality of life I lead. I don’t envy rich people. I envy happy people, spiritual people, compassionate people because that’s what I am aiming for in life. Sounds stupid to most people here and more than a little fake I am sure… but it took Kuwait to make me realise that.

‘work’ – i wouldn’t count ministry work as work. Or the kuwaitisation that means Kuwaitis punch n in the mornings and then go home.

And even if that was true – 50 percent is a REALLY shitty figure dude.

And i dont think it matters where I am from.

60% of Kuwaitis work according to 2013 statistics

And most Kuwaitis don’t work in the ministries

You’re very bitter and delusional

well unless 10 percent more Kuwaitis started work between your first statistic and your second, at least one of those is made up. Also you like to throw around phrases like ‘most kuwaitis’ and ‘the vast majoriy’all over the place. To me, that’s someone that likes to make up stuff. And really the clue is that you don’t think Kuwait is racist. Really no evidence required after that point

nice.but you cannot be happy if you do not have ENOUGH money.in our times, everything requires money.you are sick?you need money.you are hungry?you need money.you wanna get married?you need money.even in those countries you mentioned above such as turkey, canada, germany…you wanna pee or shit?you should have money.
and i suppose that you drive a corvette or maybe a challenger.maybe your papa was working for koc and got extreme salaries due to his rank and you spent your childhood in a villa with a swimming pool, having parties around the pool and dancing with michael jackson songs, so you like kuwait and feel sad for the expats who are not able to get what you already got.but do not do anything for them.and this makes it even worse for you so you feel sick of it which makes you try to protect maids etc in here.we say nothing about maids, drivers etc.we are just complaining about the expats who are bitching about kuwait 🙂

Yes, people work abroad to earn more money than they can in their home countries. And when the oil runs out in Kuwait, and there is no other source of income, expats will leave, and so will Kuwaitis, because Kuwaitis are human, and humans always migrate for a better living.

In the meantime, why should this stop a rich country like Kuwait from providing a high quality of public services for all its residents? Something that all countries in the world strive to achieve?

Are you suffering from some kind of illness (a case of sadism perhaps) that gives you pleasure from the frustrations and humiliations that people suffer in the public sector?

Kuwaitis won’t leave Kuwait when the oil runs out. Kuwait’s economy is currently reliant on oil, but it’s not too late to diversify the economy. Kuwait will eventually diversify its economy.

The expats will leave Kuwait soon since the government wants to reduce the expat population. 100,000 expats are set to leave Kuwait every year and the government will start taxing expats or removing subsidies.

How can the the economy be diversified while we have an “incompetent ruling class”?

If the expats leave Kuwait, then who will do the work which is “beneath” the Kuwaitis?

You write a lot of contradictions within a very short period.

i do not believe that you are kuwaiti.or you have been kidnapped by aliens and they changed your brain 😀 or you totally forgot what our grandparents were doing when there was no oil in kuwait.(i mean, oil was found)
so do not worry.we will not leave.maybe you would.it is the easy way.
no i am not enjoying sadism.i wonder which countries you have seen with better public services.what your criterias are?you are just making assumptions, based on your dream world.you say, things could be perfect that way so why we cannot do it.
kuwait is a country which was invaded 20 years ago.this is much more later than the time when poland was invaded.go to poland and see it.warsaw was totally demolished during the war and they are still trying to recover even after almost a century after the war.
we came so far, in really a short time.

Kuwait is not a racist country, it is a bigoted country, which might be even worse, because bigotry is practiced even between Kuwaitis themselves.

Let me quote to you what a bigot is from Wikipedia:

“Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust or hatred on the basis of a person’s

– ethnicity,
– evaluative orientation,
– race,
– religion,
– national origin,
– gender,
– gender identity,
– sexual orientation,
– disability,
– socioeconomic status,
– opinion,

or other characteristics.”

You, Qabazard, are a bigot!

50 years of independence, and being one of the richest countries of the world, I can only describe the state of mind of many of my countrymen as pathetic. So, life in Kuwait is much better than in many South Asian and African countries, but is that the extent of your ambition?

You complain about expats, but did you ever ask yourself, why do you still have so many expats? Why do you still depend on them even on jobs that you should know by heart now: How to dig an oil well or build a refinery?

Worst of all, is the angry attitude when someone points these problems out, the answer being an arrogant “if you don’t like it,then leave”. Well, the expats will stay here as long as Kuwait is paying, they will leave when THEY decide to leave, and when they do, they will have the last laugh, because they will be going to countries that are developing and growing, countries that will last, and leaving a country that is slowly stagnating and dying, a county whose people are satisfied with mediocrity at best.

We have many expatriates because of an incompetent ruling class

Most engineers in Kuwait are Kuwaitis. Nice try, though.

Most expatriates in Kuwait are blue collar workers and pink collar workers. All of those jobs are deemed ‘beneath’ Kuwaitis, that is why there are many expatriates in Kuwait

The majority of expatriates in Kuwait are unskilled South Asian workers

An engineer “engineers” things. Apart from the title, what are Kuwaiti engineers “engineering” exactly? Can they engineer an oil rig? A refinery? Perhaps something easier, an oil pipe from point A to point B?

The truth is, engineers from foreign corporations “engineer” everything, and the so called “low skilled expats” do the heavy lifting.

What you call Kuwaiti “Engineers” are just in the middle passing orders between the two, they are redundant really, don’t argue with this, I know.

Who’s fault it is? You are correct, its the incompetent ruling class, though, if you keep pursuing this line of thought, you might be at risk of losing your “privileges”, perhaps even spend some time I jail. That’s how the “top democracy” in the gulf is, lol!

Having said that, try not to vent your frustration on expats, it doesn’t do you or our country any good.

i do not agree with you.because you do not understand the beginning point of all those things.or maybe you are half kuwaiti so there is a fight in your existence as well :p
at the beginning ppl were considering kuwait hell.if somebody says that kuwait is a hell, only thing that i can tell him is GTFO then.
because noone is a prisoner here.they r free to go.but then, you and people like you came and without knowing the beginning of a discussion, started to make comments like ghandi.shit!!!
you just make your own generalizations..maybe you could be a perfectionist but things will never be perfect in kuwait.i, personally, i like my country as it is now.of course i would be even happier if it becomes better and better but sometimes you have to say alhamdelillah for what you have.
for princesses like you, maybe that doesnt mean anything but for people who has seen the bad times, it is good having these times.did you ever see a friend or a relative losing a leg because of a mine?i dont know if you did.but once you do it, you cant stop asking yourself, where the fuck these expats were while we were being killed.you will tell me that uncle sam came.this is why the efforts of americans are always being appreciated in kuwait.already, americans do not complain about the country as much as others do.i just see complaining asians and africans all around mostly.(if you noticed, i say mostly.i do not generalize.)

We have many expatriates because of an incompetent ruling class

Most engineers in Kuwait are Kuwaitis. Nice try, though.

Most expatriates in Kuwait are blue collar workers and pink collar workers. All of those jobs are deemed ‘beneath’ Kuwaitis, that is why there are many expatriates in Kuwait

The majority of expatriates in Kuwait are unskilled South Asian workers

You consider some jobs beneath you because of the free doles dat u receive in your banks… Your forefathers were running to THOSE asian shores to sell pearls for their survival.. They didn’t consider anything beneath them… History repeats and those suffer who don’t learn from history..

I don’t consider any job BENEATH me

I would like to go back to pearl diving

I love pearls and the sea. The sea is an integral part of Kuwait.

I love how people complain that kuwait is run by wasta and is corrupt. . Yes I admit that issad truth but doesnt the concept of wasta exist in every country? I know the US system is corrupt even their cops are. High class people get treated better and always get priority and can pull a couple of strings if they know the right people.. thats wasta too. Dont point fingers and judge a country when its like that everywhere. Also, yes there is racism everywhere. Ive lived years in England and the states and have experienced racism. When im with my aunt whos covered people have asked if we’re carrying bombs lol. But yeah come call us racists. Ive been mugged and robbed and touched innapropriately by local people of these countries I live in. I hated myself but I don’t sit and write shit about how shitty a country is because of a few bad apples. By no means am I saying Kuwait is perfect. It does need alot of work and improvement but I can genuinely say that most people try to treat people with respect yes we do have our own bad apples. And by the way, even local Kuwaitis have trouble gettting their work done because unfortunately were just not the most organised so its nothing personal to foriegners. I sense bitterness a d hate and if thats the case seriously why dont you simply LEAVE? Pack your bags and go. No ones holding a gun to your head no ones stopping you just leave. Leave and find your eutopia where theres no racism and perfect system lol. I wouldn’t want haters living in my country now would you?

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