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Another fight at the Avenues

The fight took place over the weekend. [YouTube]

Update: From Arab Times

A Kuwaiti citizen and an Iranian expatriate sustained injuries when they were beaten by three youths during a quarrel in a popular commercial complex in Al-Rai area. According to security sources, the citizen was shopping inside the commercial complex with his wife and his friend of Iranian nationality when three youths made a derogatory comment about his wife.

He immediately confronted them and it resulted in a fight between the two groups during which the citizen and his Iranian friend sustained injuries. Securitymen and paramedics rushed to the location when they received information about the quarrel. Paramedics referred the two injured victims to the nearest hospital while securitymen referred the three youths to Andalous Police Station where a case of sexual harassment was filed against them.

42 replies on “Another fight at the Avenues”

Please tune in next week for the Championship MMA fight occurring randomly in 360 Mall, Avenues or Marina Mall.
Time and place will not be disclosed.

BTW, as a note to improve the tons of idiotic videoing, be as smart as your smartphone and hold your phones SIDEWAYS.

Shows I’m looking forward to are “Idiot with a gun” coming to a mall near you and “Its a Matter of Time” …

Hopefully all these events being photographed and videoed put some pressure on improving the situation.

Unfortunately what happens in America too often happens in Kuwait. And America has 300 million people, not 3 million. Kuwait has had more mall tragedies in a year than similar sized cities in America have had in many years if at all. This may be a much more serious problem than Kuwait realizes.

Dr John Hayes: the crime rate in Kuwait is one of the lowest in the world, much lower than the USA’s crime rate per capita.

there would be a second video if I didn’t stop the muscled man from trying to beat two old men who attacked him for no reason just because he was before them, and they want ps4.

so, there were two fights!

Avenues is the new fight club. So sad to see the hubby AND his friend got their butt kicked for defending her, next time they should tell those muscle head security guys to help them before saying anything, good thing it wasn’t near Carrefour.

No, the fight was due to sectarianism.

A Kuwaiti Shia citizen and his Iranian friend were harassed by several sectarian Kuwaitis, which triggered the fight.

Sectarianism is a problem in Kuwait but it’s mostly low-key apart from inside the outlying districts (Jahra & Mubarak al Kabeer).

Bloody hell! Not again.
Just ban segregation in schools and uni and you are all sorted. Co-ed is the way to go to tame the rise of yobbish behavior and a testosterone overdrive among the youth in Kwt.
If only more parents would raise their boys just like girls.
Maybe it’s time that Al Shaya turned platinum sponsors hosting parenting summits and workshop across malls in Kuwait. And the bouncers would do well to flirt with single guys to keep them from harassing the X chromosomes.

40% of Kuwaiti citizens attend co-ed private schools. The problem has nothing to do with co-ed and segregation.

The majority of fights occurring at malls happened due to stateless youth. Stateless youth in Kuwait are responsible for the stabbings. The government must tackle the stateless ”Bedoon” issue. The majority of stateless youth in Kuwait don’t have easy access to schools, which prompts many of them to turn to violence and crime. ”Bedoon” means stateless.

In the first mall stabbing in December 2012, the man who died was a Lebanese doctor and his murderer was a stateless Bedoon youth. In the second mall stabbing (September 2013), the man who died was a Kuwaiti citizen and the man who murdered him was a stateless Bedoon teenager.

This current fight yesterday was due to sectarianism. A Kuwaiti Shia citizen and his Iranian friend were harassed by sectarian Kuwaitis. The cause of the fight is purely sectarian.

Sectarianism is common in the entire Middle East. Sectarianism is a more troublesome issue in Kuwait because the majority of Shia Kuwaiti citizens are of (non-Arab) Iranian descent whereas most Sunni Kuwaiti citizens are of Arab ancestry so it’s 100 times more troublesome than it can be elsewhere in the region.

First step to solving the problem is accepting you have a problem. As long as you keep blaming others for your problems, nothing is going to come out of it.

All of the stabbings at malls are committed by stateless youth. I suggest that you read the news properly. Is that a coincidence? There are only 100,000 stateless people in Kuwait yet out of the 3 million inhabitants of Kuwait, every-time a mall stabbing occurs it involves stateless youth.

The problem is the government has marginalized stateless youth to the point they’ve turned to violence.

I suggest that the government solves the stateless issue quickly, please stop pretending you know more about my country than I do. My father works with stateless youth on a daily basis, they’re more prone to committing crimes because they can’t easily access schools and have very limited job opportunities. Until recently, stateless people didn’t even have birth certificates and legal driving licenses.

In the past five years, the majority of fatal youth fights in Kuwait have involved stateless youth.

Like I said, you need to accept you have a problem, not distance yourself from it. In your own words ‘The problem is the government has marginalized stateless youth to the point they’ve turned to violence.’
The Government has been distancing itself from the problem just like you are.
I do not have to pretend I know more about your country when the problem is glaringly obvious.

I would argue the bigger problem is not the ‘stateless youths’, but the broader population of spoiled, sexually frustrated brats who are never held accountable for anything. No offense but lolguy is 100% right- nobody wants to take the blame. Every problem, in Kuwait is blamed on some other group, be it the bedoons, the merchant families, the government, the expats, or *gasp* the evil west. This is part of the childish mentality that should be addressed but sadly never will any time soon.

The stuff that mark shows is just the tip of the iceberg. We get a lot more…
The thing is solutions are hard to find: we brought security guards, fights still happen. Let’s say we install metal detectors, fist fights happen etc
It’s about changing what’s inside, respect kindness… And that happens with good parenting.

the biggest reason fueling this mentality is sexual repression. as it keeps building up, it will explode and start a fight, or create an aggressive alpha male wanna be character.

Reason this is getting worse is no other than the police. How can i say this in a polite way, police here are useless. Everyone knows they dont do nothing and theres no punishment. I few days ago a fight happened and people started beating up each other in front of the police. As if they werent there. Last week another fight happened next to my house and 20 minutes after the fight was over the police came. Results of the fight were a stabbed person, someones head cut open with a brick, and numerouse cars from innocent bystanders and cars parked in houses destroyed. All the cops did was say ” we cant do anything, go to the police station and file a complaint”. No one investigated the scene or asked people what happened or nuthing. Then they simply left. –

Grossly inadequate security. Honestly, if they cannot effectively break up an unarmed fight between five people – Aevenues seriously needs to review their security.

Parliamentarians, are in a way responsible for such abominable behaviors that we see today through the string of regressive and repressive legislations that have been passed all of last 20 years. Everything is about prohibition, gender segregation and how to generally, ensure the nation goes to hell in a handbasket. This latter seems to be almost like the charter for the assembly.
Dr. J makes an apt point- whereas drive by shootings, knife attacks etc. do keep happening in the US; for crying out loud we are talking of a nation of over 300 million people spread out over 3,794,100 square miles. Compare and contrast that with Kuwait’s 3 million people living in an area of 10625 miles. You do the math and see how much more that makes crime appear nearer to you.

Segregation at government schools has nothing to do with this fight or most other mall fight that happened in Kuwait within the last 12 months.

99% of mall fights happened due to stateless youth (”Bedoon”). Stateless people in Kuwait have virtually no rights, so many of them have turned to crime and violence.

The majority of stateless youth don’t have easy access to schools – which makes your ”segregation” point invalid. Stateless youth are not Kuwaiti citizens. It’s not the parliament’s responsibility to educate stateless youth.

The government must tackle the stateless/Bedoon issue. The government is incompetent, the parliament has tried to make a difference but the government won’t allow changes.

OK, this is what happened. For more than a decade Kuwait was stagnate with government instability and it continues, which I contend is concerted by entities to stall the development plan for this nation. As a nation, to supplement from a lack of government reforms, especially with a weak MOI, in order to get anything accomplished from ministry paperwork to traffic tickets, Kuwaitis’ became dependent on ‘wasta’. ‘Wasta’ is like a cancer within society, because ‘wasta’ fuels corruption channels within government, any government. So as the people noticed that neighboring GCC nations were developing at a fast pace, with strong national pride in government performance levels, the Kuwait government implemented an ‘Appeasement Policy’. It began throwing money at the streets with social spending raising public sector salaries and government subsidies at a very high margin which continues to consume the majority of the spending in this nation, never implementing the development plan (new airport, overhauling Kuwait Airways, metro etc.) which would have increased job opportunities for Kuwaitis and get the economy rolling. They continue to use the Parliament as an excuse, so bottom-line, if they really wanted to implement the development plan they would move the process to a development committee, roll up their sleeves and put the country back on track. If anything, move the grilling to a more appropriate forum and structure the Parliament’s agenda that would tackle the barrage of problems that have compounded throughout the decades. But no, the status quo continues, people have the cash now(?) to board those planes and spending goes overseas and people are apprehensive to visit malls like the Avenues, because of the high crime rates in the country and lack of security, which is a primary job responsibility of government in all countries.

You sound like a very smart Kuwaiti but I doubt you will be allowed to make a difference due to the above-mentioned problems.

A lot of these fights happen because the youth will hit on some girl, not knowing the guy right by her is her husband or she is with her family. And because of testesterone imbalances and Roid rage, young men here are basically ticking time-bombs. Throw in defending their ‘honor’ , and your bound to get a disaster. Of course some blame has to be carried by the women considering their clothes magically disappeare somewhere between their homes and the mall parking lot — but I digress.

If this is caused by skimpy clothing on girls then Kuwaiti males should NEVER venture out of Kuwait. What you call skimpy the rest of the world doesn’t bat an eye at!

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