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Exposing a digital artist

Someone emailed me about an exhibition thats taking place in Kuwait for a “digital artist” called Anwar Ghader. So I googled him to check out his work when I found a cool post on Projekt Cyan showing how in under 10 minutes you can replicate one of his work. I really dislike how some people take a picture, apply a few Photoshop filters and then call it art. That’s not art, what I posted the other day is art. So if you want to find out how to create your own digital art like Anwar click [Here]

Update: Just so there is no miscommunication. The reason I don’t call Anwar’s work art is not because it was easy to create or because it is ugly or anything of that sort. Its because of the way the work was created. If I take an image and using the software Rasterbator I create something nice, does that make me an artist? If I use Obama Icon Me to create a cool looking poster, does that make me an artist? So why is it art when Anwar (or any other person) uses live trace to create the work?

84 replies on “Exposing a digital artist”

Interesting,but I’m not really impressed with this kind of art.Anyone can copy an image and create a piece like this.I can do this freehand in MS Paint.

I saw this print among others in The Early Bird in Fahaheel. The ones he had there were pretty funky for pop-art (which is always expensive for no apparent reason) and as that, it serves up well.

After I checked the link, the guy seems to be so full of himself for someone who made a collection that can be done in a coffee break time, not cool.

Kha: I know what you mean. Anwar’s attitude isn’t helping him.

Patrick: Yes I do somewhere in my email but I won’t be posting it here since I don’t want to support this kind of art.

Hey Mark, i wana thank u for posting my artwork on ur famous blog 🙂 , but when someone is trying 2 copy my art work an giving tutorials i can understand how much my work is getting him so crazy,someone who doesn’t have anything 2 do, he thinks that im doing it in 10 mins with ‘auto trace’ an even hes not getting the same result! its not about how i did it, its about the concept, design, colors and the negative space. but its a free world..this is my style its up 2 u either u like or u don’t… but as usual the world is full of haters & copycats.
Anyways..everyone is invited, Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 5:00pm End Time:Friday, March 13, 2009 at 11:00pm
Location: The Exhibition
Street:Next to Slider Station on ‘The Strip’ – Across from Alseef Palace, Jibla

regards,

I love his work and I’ve seen some of his work displayed at early bird and I completely fell in love with one of his pictures. I think he’s creative and there is no wrong in expressing yourself in any way, shape or form.

Photoshop filters does not make someone an artist. Yes there is art that is very simple but they usually revolve around a big idea or they could be introducing a new one like some of the links some people have posted here. A bucket and a mop does not become art without an idea behind it.

Anwar doesn’t have a big idea, he just knows how to use a software that regular people don’t. People who find his art great are just unexposed to digital art. I blame Kuwait for this. Yousef, this is not creative, using Adobe Illustrator default brushes and effects is lame and this would never be counted as art anywhere outside Kuwait.

and one more thing, if he was creating these digital works and giving them away as computer wallpaper for free it would be fine. The fact he is managing to sell these just confuses me. Who are the idiots falling for these? If you think this is art what do you call this>>> https://www.annejulie-art.com/gallery.html
Mark posted about her long time back and I have been tracking her populairty and sucess and i am glad to say she is doing really well. Anwar is just doing good here because people are uneducated on art, unexposed to art. Real artists aren’t arogant pricks who think they are the best thing that has happened to kuwait.

Johnny: Thanks for the link, didn’t know she had a new website!

Anwar: I think the problem is as designers we all know how easy it is to create your work with a few clicks of a button. Now if non designers like and are buying your work good for you. Art means different things to different people.

Mark, if u show me any of ur art work ill tell u exactly how u did it an which program u used but this is not the point,
by the way i have a painting called ‘shani’ 😉
cheers

Sure you can tell. We can all tell how Owaikeo creates his art https://248am.com/mark/kuwait/owaikeo/
And we all know it takes him longer than 10 minutes and doesn’t use an automated process like a filter.

Again just to make it clear to everyone here. I don’t think art has to be complicated to be called art. On the contrary most of the art I like is very minimal. But I do have a problem with art thats created using Photoshop or Illustrator filters. I personally believe the two artworks I created above in under 10 minutes are nicer than Anwars stuff but that doesn’t mean I am going to out and call myself an artist and try to sell them.

mark, i didnt use photoshop, an i didn’t use the filters ur using, i know, but in my artworks there is a touch, colors, idea an negative space. an there’s a big difference between the one i did an the one ur doing 🙂

Anwar, I used illustrator just like you did, not photoshop. Btw do you know what negative space is? I’ve realized you’ve been using that term loosely since someone mentioned it as a comment to one of your works on another blog

Dear Anwar, you are not an artist you are a hack.

Digital art is art that is created on a computer… not by a computer which is what you are doing. You can call me a hater if you want, it won’t change the fact that you are a hack. A good one though since you said people actually fall for your fake art and buy it.

One question do you have the rights to any of the images you’ve had illustrator trace for you in all your artwork or do you just use the images without the permission of the original photographer? I am guessing the photographers don’t know there pictures are being used in your work.

I blame places like The Exhibition for supporting an artist that steals other people’s photographs then uses a software to automatically trace them and then sells them. Galleries are supposed to be more picky.

Johnney, i created it! not the computer! thats why there’s a difference between what I’m doing an the one Mark did, I’m not using auto trace at its! i have my way 2 do this thing, an if u think ur an artist show us some of ur art works..Ya i have the rights! an some of them r mine.

enough for 2day 🙂

Yes this blog has the right, its called freedom of speech. There would only be a conflict if I made defamatory allegations which I didn’t. I also didn’t remove your name from the picture, your name was never on the picture but don’t worry you are credited in the post. Now if I go and try and sell your artwork as mine then you could make a fuss.

Lol, this is just Hilarious. Why go to University and waste money to study Design or Art for 5 years. You could just learn a few tricks on Photoshop and Illustrator. Learn how to lay them on top of each other, mix and match then call yourself an artist, and try to make some money by selling it to people who don’t have a clue! Brilliant!

hahahahahahahaha…. is this guy for real?? Anwar, print these on toilet paper, i think it’s a BIG idea.

Mark, do 2 more images and i think you’ve got yourself an exhibition too. 🙂

It would be really easy to figure out if his work had and depth or meaning if he could just provide us with an artist statement..

I mean its visually pleasing, but without meaning its not art.

Guys like Anwar give us graphic designers a bad name, taking advantage of the general public and make some quick cash. Good for him, duping people like that. lol.

anwar you have been exposed, now run along to your “exhibition” and dupe some more idiots into buying your “art” before this whole thing falls down on your oversized head

Now you know its all filters and some easy steps, when in fact:

– He owns the picture and the rights associated with it
– He showed you how to replicate his image
– Created an exhibition to house these items and to sell them

He hasnt done anything wrong. In Europe ladies and gentlmen, you will see art that people go ‘Wow’ on when in fact its a piece of work that can be put together in under 10 minutes. No matter how innovative a communication medium is, it will always be an art, an object of creativity.

And even though it took him 5 minutes maybe to put together, how come no one else has thought about it earlier? Couldn’t you get creative and be the first one to come up with this kind of stuff?

Plus Art is Art, communication, music, dentistry are just a few to mention. And Art can be ugly or pleasing, IT doesn’t have to always be pleasing, although it has to be creative.

Man if I graduate and come back home to Kuwait, am I going to face many look-alikes of the idiots that comment on this website? Because If I have to deal with these kinds, man would that be depressing. No wonder you barely see a creative Kuwaiti anymore, because its Fashla to be creative yuba.

Dude.. why does everyone have to hate on everyone else?????
sho mark ur not the only graphic designer out there… your opinion is your opinion.. does not necessarily mean im wrong and ur right or vice versa.. art is subjective.. and as an artist you should know to respect other peoples work.. no need to call it bad.. or “not art”.. that is immature and not very professional coming from you.. a so-called creative director.. !!

Just got the following email from anwar!

” Hi mark, my lawyer is contacting ur domin company for using an abusing my name.
All my works is copyrighted.
Regards,”

This is not the first time. He also threatened the blogs Project Cyan and chikapappi when their posts resulted in negative comments about him.

ok go: You contradicted yourself in your same post. You start off by saying my opinion is my opinion but then state that because I gave my opinion I am immature and unprofessional.

Putting that aside if you actually read my comments above you will notice that I never attacked Anwar personally. I clearly criticized his work but I also made it clear this was my opinion. Anwar on the other hand clearly has an attitude problem as you can tell by the comments on my blog and the others.

I did not say that because u gave ur opinion ur immature and unprofessional. But using terms like bad art and knocking Anwar down IS immature and unprofessional. You want critique his work, go for it! but don’t make him look like a fool just coz you don’t like his work or his technique isnt good enough for you. There are a lot of artists in Kuwait, good or bad, we shouldnt humiliate them like this.. if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all.. you should use this blog to bring out the best in people.. thats all im saying..

Hi mark, thanx for posting my email, u r using my name an my work without my permeation, an this is my work an its under my name, at least I’m not getting money, i pods and laptops for free from companies only 2 talk on their products..! project cyan? chikkapappi? no not for the negative comments! cuz they used my works without my permeation! i know each one of them an i really don’t care about their negative comments cuz for me they don’t know anything about art..,
get real ppl and get a life and stop acting like haters.
regards,

ok go: I think you’re making things up as you go because I never used the term “bad art”.

Now the fact that you think I don’t support artists in Kuwait means you’ve never been to my blog before. I do support local talent as much as I can, if you just check the events category you would see that.

Now the fact that I don’t support Anwar doesn’t mean I don’t support local talent, it just means I am not supporting Anwar and I’ve given my reasons above.

I found a comment by another person who also thinks this is not pop art. Check it…

With regard to concept: this is not pop art. Pop art, as a conceptual approach, is about taking images and objects from popular culture and transforming them into works of art by removing them from their original context. It is about originality and innovation, neither of which you presented in your work. Next, colours: Yeah, what about the colours? Using colours the way you did with all these presets takes no more skill or effort than a child filling in a colouring book (in fact, that’s being unfair to the child). And as for negative space: that’s what you’ve got in between your ears.

Said by observer

Talk about someone who can’t take some criticism and negative comments. I had a whole conversation with OwaikeO on this blog and he took my negative comments and criticism very well and he understood what I was saying and he explained to me what I needed to know.

Now Anwar, if you want to show that you’re really an artist and not some fraud who wants to just make money, how about you prove us all wrong and create something that actually needs some talent, not something “cool” that uses “cool”, colors and negative space (by the way, did you learn that by Google?).

See the problem with Anwar compared to artists in Europe who create something in under 10 minutes is the fact that those artists in Europe are actually artists and could create something more sophisticated and complex if they wanted to, could Anwar do that? Only if his 1337 photoshopping skillz let him :]

Artist, u so funny man, this is my last comments cuz im too busy to sit on blogs, i wana thank mr Mark for posting my Great job 🙂 , i really don’t care about the comments cuz each comment is posted by a designer i mean a ‘hater’,
again everyone is invited.
cheers.

No not everyone.. Only who is trying so hard to give tutorials an attack others work for some reason. its better for u guys 2 go an create something creative not to create a blog an start saying bad things about people.

I have just one question I would like to ask supporters of Anwar to end this debate once and for all.

If I take an image and using the software rasterbator (https://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/) I get a nice result. Does that make me or whoever uses the software an artist?

If I use obamaicon.me to create a poster, does that make me an artist?
https://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/

So why is it art when Anwar uses the software live trace? If its not art when using raterbator or obamaicon it shouldn’t be called art when using live trace.

Kuwait is just so disappointing and behind when it comes to the art world – any talentless fop can make money off their fake work because the public are just so uninformed and have no taste.

The pattern is always the same. These wanna-be artists have an “exhibition” in some little gallery and invite their friends and family to indulge in sympathy purchases. Their family coddle them and tell them they are brilliant, and never tell them the truth. And then they end up thinking they are god’s gift to art, like this Anwar guy. These people would NEVER make it ANYWHERE outside of Kuwait. If he thinks this is good, let him just try to exhibit his work at more reputable local galleries like the Sultan Gallery or Dal al-Funoon. They would spit on him.

Good for Patrick and Mark for trying to shake some reality into this guy. What’s sad is that he keeps lying, and he refuses to accept criticism and only wants to hear praise. If someone wants to be considered an “artist,” they MUST be honest, and be open to learning from the critique or advice of others more established than themselves.

And I hate the way the term “pop art” gets bandied about by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

And by the way, Anwar, I happen to know the people who own the copyrights to some of the old Kuwaiti images that you used (they are a UK based publishing house). I will share your “art” with them and see if they like you using their images without their “permeation” (as you put it!). You are making money off their images, so you are supposed to first get their permission and then pay them a percentage of what you’re making. What you are doing is illegal. Stop threatening to sue Mark and the other people who posted your work when you are doing something MUCH worse.

Oh, and to Bdayer who posted: “how come no one else has thought about it earlier” – someone did. Hamad Saab and Ali Sultan did this AGES ago (taking old Kuwaiti images and adding bright colours to them)

Anwar’s work is not pop-art and is not genuine “art”, it’s what is known as experimental, which again is not wrong or fake or anything, it’s actually a good thing to experiment, it’s the key of creation and innovation.

I have personally no problem with someone using auto-tracing and presets to experiment and try to create something. But then lie about using presets and call it genuine art and sell it is what disgusts me and what put me off even more is when the artist “Anwar” becomes hostile towards people who go into a negative debate with him and insults them and sends threatening emails and constantly deny the fact that he uses presets.

I have always been a supporter myself for people who try and do something or create something and I would of been supportive to Anwar as well if only he was honest and just knew how to handle a debate.
Anwar’s work is going nowhere and with this attitude he carries, he is personally going nowhere as well.

On another note, I am very disappointed about “The Exhibition” who claims on their website to be different then other spaces but it’s just another space in Kuwait who would just accept any artist of any kind just for the sake of keeping the space active. This gives more room to artist wannabe to grow and real artists to struggle.

Anwar I have a recommendation for you (for the 100 time I say it) just be honest and transparent and be prepared to accept any sort of critics. I have personally learned a big lesson on that matter, I am used to a different type of critics back in Europe, people tend to be more constructive with their critics, and then in Kuwait I was exposed to a different type of critics, one that is harsher and just very different. I remember going into a big argument with lots of people in the advertising business and even with Mark himself, only to then realize that I should not defend my work or myself but should be subjective and just accept the fact that I am still learning from the advertising field (which is not my field at all, I was just playing around and experimenting in it in Kuwait). I learned that critics makes you much better in what you do and takes you to another level and makes you understand what you are good at and what you are bad at.

It has nothing to do with Kuwait or the designers of Kuwait, you are getting bashed because you are lying and taking advantage of the masses who don’t know much about art or graphic design. It would be the same anywhere else in the world, don’t say Kuwait is full of haters and what’s so ever.

My toast got cold damn it! That is all for me.

Dear FAN: I am talking about the one piece of art that was used in Mark’s post. You did mention that the technique was used by other artists in a previous time, but the art and the medium shown above is something that’s new, regardless of the similarities between the different works.

“Thanks and no worries :)”
“Indeed, comments are always welcome, I always read and try and refine my work. Thanks :)”
”I know you mean no harm in ur comment”
”Thank all for ur kind comments, I really appreciate it.”

I Copied some of OwaikeO’s comments above, now in my opinion from just reading his comments it tells me that he is a confident well mannered artist that does not take negative comments personal, In fact on a couple he managed to turn it around. in the end he has the choice to take it or leave it, and in both he indirectly showed it will not effect his work or change his caricature.

Did that make scence? hehehe

Anwar, if you can’t take artistic criticism on your “work” professionally, then you are not an artist. Just because other designers give their artistic opinions on your “work” (regardless if they are good or bad), that does not give you the right to call them “haters”. See I know Mark personally and I know how much effort he gives in promoting “GOOD” talent.
so instead of irrationally threatening this website and all it’s so-called haters, I suggest you take a moment to reflect on the work you are doing, and on how you are giving yourself a bad name.

And another thing, If some of the designers here were to show you their artwork, they’d put you out of business.

Patrick: You’ve misunderstood what makes us different.

We are an exhibition space, not an art gallery. If an artist rents the space out to use as an art gallery, so be it.

Please read what’s on our website again. It clearly states that “we allow you to have your own space, instead of sharing it with others. This isn’t an exhibition hall with hundreds of booths and it isn’t a Kuwaiti-style house with five or six rooms. For a number of days, weeks or months, this is your own space to do with whatever you please.” No where in the text does it say we

THAT is what makes us different from other exhibition spaces. It does not say THAT is what makes us different from other art galleries.

We do not choose who exhibits at The Exhibition because we’re not here to judge what is or isn’t creative, unique, new, beautiful (whether it’s fashion, art, or furniture). We let the public do that for themselves.

This whole post got a bit out of hand.Here’s a guy who’s at least trying to make something from his creativity,so give him some credit.Or do you prefer him being one of those spoiled brats living of their parents? If you’re not intend on buying it then let it be.

Dear All,

I went thru Patrick Semaan post on the same issue and read all the comments, it seams Patrick saw the art in question on another blog and commented on it but that comment did not appeal to Anwar and he commented back and so it goes like حوار الطرشان.

The thing that surprised me is Mark attitude towards the issue, his post went directly into attacking Anwar and his work.!!!
Now why would someone do that?

if Anwar was a hack so is millions of people around the world, why one would wast time attacking them if they did not attack him or his work, why can’t we just ignore, and since when we are art critics -if that was art- i believe “Beauty is in eye of the beholder” so it doesn’t matter if Anwar used filters or not because those who wrot famous songs and books did not invent the words they only put them is a different order and that order made them intresting to read or listten to. -i saw that in a movie-

i buy Chinese jeans and Italian jeans, they both look and feel the same but i pay more for the Italian ones…why?
..i like the Italians and feel china is there only to copy what the Italians make but i still buy and wear the chinese jeans when it cost chinese and not Italian.

Anwar is free to sell his creations, and those who buy his work are not idiots they just think its worth what he asked for, i can wash my car…but i still take it to the car wash, i can iron my pants but i take it to the laundry, i can cook but i eat out….etc.

So nobody is an idiot, people do shop and google around before paying for anything.

Someone commented that “why go to university if by only a few tricks one can make art..” now what makes you think that Anwar did not go to university?

dudes try to be positive, and encourage people…don’t just hit them in the face and tell them that their work sucks…there are two ways in criticizing.. either do like you did posting attacks, or criticizing in a pro manner.

“idiot”: You’re missing the main point. Anwar is still claiming that he didn’t use any preset filters, and he is insisting that his work is “original”. I’m sorry, but you can’t lie about your work and not expect to get this kind of criticism. Nobody here is trying to demoralize him or attack him. What everyone is trying to do is show him what it means to really be an artist: when you put your work out there, you have to expect all kinds of criticism, the good and the bad, and the constructive. And, DON’T LIE. Nobody is trying to discourage him from learning and improving on his work. But we are trying to make him realize that lying about it will only make him subject to ridicule rather than earn him any shred of respect.

ppl i’ve seen all the comments i feel like im setting in a high scool ( old days ) when we were getting Jealous !! from each other ,, come on ppl get over it ..this guy i mean Anwar ghader has a talent and his work is really great ,,

FAN
am not an artist nor a digital illustrator, but is it possible that he didn’t use any filters…any chance he used a different technique?

ANWAR MY FREND PLZ DNT LISTEN 2 THA HATERZ AND DO WAT U DO GURRL GETTIN, PAID-LAID-MADE 7ABIBY I AM GR8 REEL ARTIST LIKE U ALSO I AM Q8I I KNOW WAT THE REAL DEEL IS STAY TRU TO THE ART AND RELL TO THE GAME YA HURRRD?

THE WORLD JUST OF JELOUS HATER FOREIGNERZ, THEY H8 U CUZ THEY CANT BE U, ALL THEY WANT IS Q8 JINSIYA MAN THEY NEED TO STFU AND GTFO OF Q8 MY BEUTY.

The Exhibition, there is nothing to misunderstand. I mean, bottom line is, its what the “space” is exposing and resulting in, that makes up its reputation whilst its quality.

You are what you eat as in you are what you exhibit, at the end of the day, it is just as any other “space” because it is presenting the same thing, but its named differently and do business differently.

Its what you chose to exhibit, what you chose to expose and the quality of these what define how different you are, not how you run your business and or name it.

+ The fact that you don’t care how or what is being exhibited or the quality of it, just make it even worth and just gives an idea about what is gonna be coming in the future and who will be coming to your space.

I know A LOT of spaces like that, back in France and other places and some have interesting things to share and others just have nonsense and just nothing good and all of these spaces have a reputation based on what they allow to be in, in any industry or business or subject exhibited. Again, it is what is in that space that makes the space different, not how it is run or the concept behind it or what’s so ever.

LOOOL patrick must have a lot of free time on his hands… he writes very long comments and quite often!!

There are two Patricks on this blog, me and Patrick Seeman, nevertheless, it takes less than a minute to write a comment that is… as you put it, “long”. Also, many users here post long comments, I’m not the only one. Maybe you should read more often :]

Thank you Mark. That was exactly my reaction when I saw the invitation to his gallery on Facebook. And thanks for introducing us to al Refae’s work as well.

No offense, Anwar.

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