GTFO!

zoomzoom i can honestly see a conversation going that way.. that chick had some sort of issue going on.. its weird.. something must have been going on with her.. but all the expats I know that have lived in Kuwait for over 10 years tend to like it here..

Its her loss because that just shows that she really didn’t learn much from being abroad..

christ i wish i could get my 5 wasted minutes back from reading this shite. a retarded english girl vs a kuwaiti equivelent of a valley girl…it doesn’t get dumber than this.
i feel my IQ just dropped a few points. motherfuck them both to hell.

I think she got dumped or screwed by a Kuwaiti guy 😉

zoomzoom why are u such a pessimistic fuck…

Why would you assume some random person would go around making random stories up like that. Have respect for other people, not everyone is a sadistic wanker that makes up storied for attention like yourself.

moocherx, “not finding enough maids to beat up or molest” this is so unfair and offensive.

Santa: thank you for speaking up on behalf of the maids. You do your country proud.

first 4 eps of 24 have been leaked.

This is so stupid.
We all know that Lisa is right in many things. You all complain about Kuwait, so there most be something wrong. I see so many unhappy souls in Kuwait, but for some reason we stay, maybe because we don’t know if the new place we choose is much better.
“Life is a box of chocolate, we never know what we gonna get”.
One thing I know for sure, Lisa have had a lot to struggle with in Kuwait and so do I as an European. Kuwait is slow, big lack of creativity, culture activity, many Kuwaiti are rude and cruel and your known for it, but you dont care, so that mean we shouldnt speak up? And you are showing it right now on this page. Lisa are a good person and if she had a bad costumer I am sure she don’t make it in to blog . So please grow up and face the music, people can have a bad day and be feed up of this country just like the rest of us, but it don’t make her a bitch or a bad person. Yes I know that it is not nice to talk bad about Kuwait in front of you, but how are we going to make a change, if we don’t discuss the problems?
Lisa has my full 100% support and I am truly shocked over these comments.

Your are right, there is culture. And I am maybe one of the few who have the opportunity to live it everyday. All my friends are Kuwaiti and I spend all my free time with them. And I dont think Dubai is better, my friends there never interact with the local’s. I am here in Kuwait to learn about your culture, but if i didnt have good friends, who would show me? Remember most of the expat work their ass off, 10 -12 hours a day, 6 days a week. In a system who dont embraze the work we are trying to do, everything is slow and a coverment unorganized. I know you cant do anything about it, but you can start with your self. Why do I need to feel like I am about to die every time I drive in Kuwait. Why do I have to drive with pepper spray because I am not left alone? Why do I see garbage every where in Kuwait? Why cant I get work permit easy? And belive me you do need Designer’s here!! Dont misunderstand, I do see a country changing slowly, but still with it’s head in the sand…

Perhaps heritage is the word.

You cannot forget that European countries have been built on many hundreds of years of historical foundation, so it’s obvious that when Europeans come to the Middle East – they find the region devoid of any style or panache (which if we are honest, bar Lebanon, is 95% true).

London, for example, has buildings in existence which are many hundreds of years older than the entire state of Kuwait.

Whilst Europeans were busy building impressive architectural masterpieces back in the 17th Century, Arabs were chilling (or should that be sweating) in the deserts and living like nomads.

We are catching up albeit at a much slower place. Probably around 10 years from now I anticipate you will see a complete reshuffle in the personality of Kuwait as we know it.

Ultimately, Lisa has an opinion, and offensive or not, they should be respected.

Freedom of Speech is an entitlement that all residents of Kuwait (local or not) should and must have.

I’m rarely insultive.

jane

I would rather have a Hair dresser with a highschool diploma than a Kuwaiti with an MBA who sits on his ass all day long in DAWAM drinking coffee and reading the newspaper, at least she is earning a living and not sitting on her ass waiting for money to roll in.

And to all the others … Pearl Diving and trade routes are not culture .. culture is something within people …not about history , so far Kuwait’s culture is hmmm let’s see going to malls, buying cars, spending huge amounts of time flirting around with girls, oh and yeah admitting that there are somethings wrong int heir country but they wont do anything about it …

I would definitley start calling Kuwait a good country to live in, when the chance of a Kuwaiti telling an Expat “I am Kuwaiti i can kick you out whenenver i want” seizes to exist …. or give me her name i have connections with the ministry i can shut her down and send her back to her country …

And you claim to have culture

and i wish more people talk and act like Toxy ..this way you wouldn’t need more time to get a culture u would have it already

Dear Toxy,
I was waiting for your reply. I read your piece in Bazaar Magazine and I am a huge fan of what you wrote. I am a designer on my 4th year in Kuwait, and face every day a battle with mediocrity.
I do belive in Kuwait or I would not have stayed, but I also know the war Lisa has been fighting for her business and all the work she put in to it. Having to face every day spoiled Kuwaity women ( I challenge any one to do the same) with their problems and attitude to wards service men and women. I would have spoke my peace too.

Yes you have a country with culture, but the I think the money has gone to your head. Money dont give you the right to act like monkey’s and spoild brats.

I strongly disagree with anybody who says that Kuwait or even any other arab country has more culture and heritage than Europe; that might be true some 1000 years ago. But today, that’s just a joke.

Yes, you had culture, but not anymore, because alot of the new generation Kuwaitis just don’t give a damn about it, and you know it.

Somebody said that Kuwaitis are more educated, yes, the ones who go to Europe and the US and earn their education from there are well educated. But the ones who stay here, I don’t know about them so I won’t say anything about them.
Don’t get me wrong, I met a Kuwaiti girl once and we played basketball, I noticed that she was intelligent, humble just from the way she talked to me. By the way, she was the daughter of a former Kuwaiti ambassador to Italy, in case you wanted to know.

Now, let’s move on to the way they treat foreigners, I’ll go straight to the point, they treat Europeans and North Americans (Canadians, and Americans) like kings, and ALOT of them treat Asians or any other third world country like dirt, but they know they can’t send them back to their countries because who’s gonna work as maids, cleaners or as cashiers at Mcdonalds, Dunkin Donuts, Pizza Hut, Fridays, Sultan Center… etc, Kuwaitis??? You must be joking with me.

I’ll tell you this, if I see a Kuwaiti guy or a girl working at Burger King as a cashier, I’ll respect that guy/girl more than any other Kuwaiti even if that kuwaiti has a masters degree in computer science, and if you ask me why, then I’ll tell you that you’re naive.

To sum things up, I’m not claiming that it’s like heaven in Europe and America, on the contrary, I admit that they have alot of problems including racisim, crime, social problems…. etc, But atleast they admit that it exists, and they are doing something about it, and not just defending themselves with emotions instead of using logical thinking.

If I have offended anybody, I’m sorry, but these are the facts.

How many Hardees branchs are there in Kuwait?

DfineLine:- try telling that to Donald Trumph. Or Paris Hilton.

for starters,there seems to be some sort of annoyance by some of the locals of an expat crticisising kuwait.Lets clear that out of the way first of all.Anyone who lives in kuwait and is an active member of society has the right to bitch and moan and complain without having it thrown in their face that ” if you dont like it,leave” that we keep hearing. Also,lets be frank: most of us here are annoyed that kuwait is full of rich uneducated morons who drive around all day in fancy cars,just like we would be as annoyed at the same sight anywhere else. Yes,there is a lot wrong here and once again I am assuming that most(not all) of us would rather the country was a lot more open with wine bars,clubs,real concerts and theatre to go to and to chill out without having to be in someones house or chalet.
yes,lisa was harsh and possibly having a bad hair day (cheese),but as toxy pointed out, it is her rightto have an opinion,especially one that was expressed to one person who she knows quite well. I am sure that had she known her comments were going to be embellished and comented on,she wouldnt have made the same exact arguments.After all,there is such a thing as privacy and our role as bloggers isnt to just nail people to the wall.Otherwise we become the same as the dudes in saudi with the sticks who wack anyone who doesnt fit into what they consider appropriate dress or attitiude.

oh HAHAHAHAHAHA she shut off her anonymous commenting now!! another weak lil POS that can’t handle the pressure.

i was going to post about how the only ppl that really get offended and outraged over dissing kuwait are wannabe-kuwaiti bidoons or long term arab expats that feel they need to compensate by being needlessly patriotic and arse-kissing the govt.

lol mark was thinking about doing this dfineline

dfineline nobody told her to be a hairdresser in kuwait if she didnt wanna hear all the moaning from us..

i lived in london my whole life and i love it but there is now way that the UK has more culture than kuwait.. if you wanna see culture in kuwait dont look at the spoilt teenagers that you see in malls, go look at thier families and thier homes and what goes on in the house, thats where you will see culture..

its true the teenagers here hav no culture but its just a phase, i know alot of ppl who went through that and are now settled down.. teenagers just wanna hav thier fun but belive me we hav more culture than the UK. and dubai, okii dubai is nice but only for tourists, the emarati ppl dont like it as much..
girls getting harrased, raped, drunk and sleeping around doesnt sound like culture to me..

i dont wanna sound bad, i love london i see it as my 2nd home and would love to be baq but when you are talkin about culture dont even think about the UK..

People who feel the most insecure about their countries tend to fly the flag more often.

One more for the record, I never said Kuwait didnt have culture, I said there is a lack of culture activity. All my friends are Kuwaiti and I have experience your culture many times. The people here are very hospitable and friendly, and I am very greatful for living here.
But dont forget that a lot of expats dont have this opportunity. And tell me what is left, Marina mall, Starbucks and some resturant where you cant enjoy a bottle of wine with your meal?

Let us be completely honest, I dont think we should judge Kuwait from some spiky guys in Marina Mall, neither should we judge a out spoken hair dresser from UK. I dont think Uk is better than Kuwait or Dubai. (I had the choice to move to Dubai, but I dident , because I think Kuwait is far better.)
But If you are alone in this country it is not cool. You Kuwaiti are lucky, you have a coverment who takes good care of you and big families who supports you.
And I learned alot from this, In EU we move out of the house when we are 15 and up, our grand parents are left alone at a nursering home. I never said EU was better, but I am saying that it is hard to be an expat in Kuwait.

I think you need to loosen up a bit, take it easy. Dont take it so serious when we comment or write comics in newpapers. Relaxe and use your energi to change it for the better. And we will help you with what ever we can. I am good at writing big Posters for our demonstration…!!!

DfineLine, I agree with You.. “I never said Kuwait didnt have culture, I said there is a lack of culture activity.”

but what is it with You guys and alcohol? I mean when you first came to Kuwait, were u misled? or tricked in anyway? I mean u came to Kuwait knowing that there are no frickin alcohol in the country..
don’t give us the “alcohol is available everywhere,, might as well legalize it”.. U can’t go around thikning like that!! cocaine is available.. wanna legalize that too?
every country has it set of rules.. we must respect that. and MOVE ON.

jolie_gal

what is/are the u k’s couture?

I’m from UK… and I would have called Top Man stylish…. in around 1982.

Santa
Yes your right I knew that Kuwait was non alcohol/drug country. And the first 3 months was dry for me personly. But after 3 years I am almost become a alcoholic and I promise you when I move I will not want to see another bottle of Red label. This is fine, but if you want to enjoy a meal with a nice bottle of red wine, you cant.

I think that Kuwait would be fare better off with a system like Abu dhabi, with lincens and small stores for expats. Then it would be nice to enjoy our stay and simulate a normal life away from home. If you travel to Paris, dont tell me you dont go to an Arab resturant to enjoy your favorite meal? It dosent meen you will eat so much that you will trow up on the street and act like a indulged fat ass…

Let us be frank, Kuwait needs to relax and stop beeing so afraid. In Norway we where protesting for a long time against Kebab and curry, now we have a vibrant city where we embraze the diversity of different culture’s. I dont say you dont, but dont close the door to the future.

Call me selfish, but I love my country and IMO we’re not ready to relinquish control of alcohol. its against our religion and I personally think we’re better off.
But, I’m all for making Failaka (a kuwaiti island) an open place, where You can find alcohol. to attract tourism and what not.

Now, about the arabic food, I NEVER eat anything related to arabic food when I’m on vacation… not even indian food (coz its kinda reminds me of our Kuwaiti food).. but thats not the point 😛

Zaydoun,

Did jane say COUTURE or CULTURE? *scroll up* yep…couture.

You know when we were kids and a kid does something bad, the parent punishes him. when the punishment takes place infront of us, it’ll make us think twice before doing something bad in the future… its just that simple!
when someone rapes or kill a person and then get executed in public, it’ll leave a bigger impact on the weak souls.. they’ll think a 1000 times before doing something stupid.
and as a member of this society Im gonna feel more safe and secure when the rapist/murderer gets his dues. its only fair. a soul for a soul.

Now, the lovemaking scene is totally different. it’ll only arouse you sexually and that isn’t good (if you’re not married). its against our beliefs as Muslims.. its just wrong, logically and morally.
after all we’re humans, we should have more respect for ourselves than to be filmed and watched having sex on tv.

oh, and I’m glad You’re reading the Quran. actually it shows from Your replies that you’re open minded.

does anyone have another link for the video ?? it has been removed from youtube !!