Great news which you can read over [Here]
I’m more interested in the Reuters photo used in the article which I’ve posted above. I thought Reuters was against photoshopped images yet the one above looks fake. It looks like someone took all the skyscrapers in Kuwait and then shoved them next to each other… but I could be wrong.
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In a way it could be good, but in KUWAIT!!!!!
I don’t think so…
🙁
Interesting.. A lot of money is going to be lost. Is there any word on what system will be used to replace it?
I don’t think the photo is Photoshoped,if you go out at see next to Soug Sharq, thats the skyline you’d see.
Problem is the proportions of the skyscrapers look completely off. The first building on the right isn’t that close to the sea. It all looks very strange to me.
Now you’ve got me doubting the image is doctored. I am starting to think that maybe with a zoom lens it could bring the perspective closer…
The building on the right is the Al Babtain building, and its quite close to the sea next to the Amiri hospital.
The proportions might be off due to some building being closer than others.
Going to pass by the area tomorrow morning and get a look 😀
The image is clearly a photoshopped image.
Look at Marriott Courtyard. The building does not face the sea, rather it faces Fahaheel.
However, in this image, the Courtyard Marriott faces the sea.
Mark, don’t bother. It is fake.
ok i am sorry who care about the picture
this new rules will be so nice well i have couple of friends in Bahrain and they love it. i mean the labor system is so easy. u have an offer go work simply if u don’t leave. pay ur iqama and u can stay if u have a job so what do u need more?
YES…
I’ve been advocating for this legislation for a really long time. Its great that we’ve finally eliminated the sponsorship program, which is really, just a terrible system in which the employer has all the power whilst the employee is protected by none. Im really happy, and a prouder Kuwaiti because of this.
oh and one more thing children, i’m a little concerned over the fact that this has to be the most epic-est post/news EVAR! and yet you guys seem more keen on the mysterious reuters photo LOL!
This is great news.. Wonder what the new system will be?
This is great news! I applaud the people who made this happen! I’m sure the new replacement system won’t be easy, so all the power to them.
A lot of money might get lost yes. But the hell with that, nothing should be more important than a human’s dignity and freedom.
Man, the ministry of social works is a disgrace to Kuwait, it treats non kuwaitis like shit and Kuwaitis with shit but a little less. I hate their employees, you take a number in one of there hallrooms to finish some paper work, then when your number comes they say they are done for today. They even dont work on Thursdays and call it a manangement day. Thats great news and lets hope no more need for them:)
I’m sure its not photshoped.Else the skyscrapers would have been in a single line and not one behind the other.
Let’s hope the piece of news is on and hope the decision is not reverted till February.
Its an interesting step, but I’d like to take a moment to question the practical results of scrapping the current sponsor system. Kuwaitis represent roughly 30% of their population. With that figure, we still have one of the lowest crime rates in all of the GCC and given that the quality of labor we import varies between highly educated and poverty stricken…this fact is nothing short of a miracle.
In the case of Bahrain, some of the recently “emancipated” workers went into careers which I won’t allow myself to mention here, out of respect for fellow bloggers. The fact is, the current sponsor system is riddled with flaws…but it also represents a tracking system for people who originate from poverty stricken backgrounds.
Again, we need more information on the new system…but I ask this of both the expats and the Kuwaitis: do we really want unemployed individuals to be able to roam around Kuwait freely with no system in place to monitor their activity? I’m not so sure.
KUWAIT im proud of you…
Yes this was modern day slavery…
but im proud that you realised it…
The non requirement of a sponsor, a great a move as it is, will also result in non trackability (for want of a better word) of certain classes of labor. But then again, it depends on what system will be used to replace the existing one.
The system in Europe is a case in point. Although there are quite a few people there, who are basically untraceable, for the most part, the government does know where a majority of expat workers are and what they do. Of course this is mainly because of the need to file taxes among many other things but like I said, the Kuwaiti government needs to figure out a way of doing this without tying expat employees down.
@BarryUno
You’re absolutely right. The fact is, we as good nature individuals, would like to believe that people do not commit crimes because they respect the law and their fellow human beings. The sad reality, however, is that many individuals do not commit crimes because they do not believe they can get away with it under the current conditions. It will be a long time before developing nations reach the point of Switzerland, where the law is a way of life.
The sponsorship system is highly exploited. There is no way to escape the whims and fancies of a bad sponsor be it an individual or a company. A sponsor can prevent you from changing jobs, preventing you from going to your home country even for emergencies, force you to work with a meager salary, not paying the salary on time (in some case, 3 or even 6 months late, force to work in unhealthy conditions etc. It is high time that it is changed. But it does not mean that sponsorship system is to be abandoned. The sponsorship will move from an individual/ company to a Govt. body. That’s all to it.
Well. What to say i was born here. i believe everything happens for a reason and God always listen. Let’s see what comes next…
As an expat I think this is a step in the right direction for civil liberties in Kuwait, with the current system bordering on slavery when abused. Any system which is in place will be open for abuse and will be abused by those who wish to do so (nationals and ex pats). However, the freedom which this move will give to citizens far outweighs any risks you associate with the loss of “tracking” of the people. Many of the countries which Kuwaiti nationals are so eager to visit on a regular basis have no such controls and are better for it. I’ll be eager to see what the new system is and if it is an improvement.
Also, yes Kuwait has one of the lowest crime rates, but also consider –
1. The official crime rates are never published and if they are you don’t know how true they are. – 1984
2. How high is the suicide rates compared to other countries?
3. How many crimes don’t get reported through fear of retribution from sponsor?
So, as a non-Kuwaiti, does that mean I can get a driver now ??
Consider the definition of ‘crime rates’.
You’re probably thinking of murder, rape, robbery etc.
However, the definition of crime is, “an action or omission which constitutes an offence and is punishable by law”
There are therefore hundreds of crimes committed every minute in Kuwait.
*Exceeding the speed limit
*Not wearing a seatbelt
*Driving whilst using a phone
*Drinking alcohol
*Sexual intercourse outside of marriage
*Smoking in a public area
The impact of crime on society is not about the statistics of what is reported. Rather, it is about how crime impacts the daily life of the population.
If one person has their car stolen, it is awful. However, it only impacts that person and his family directly.
If one person decides to smoke in a hospital corridor, (just an example from my day today!) it affects everyone in that area.
If Kuwait was truly a low-crime country, the majority of people would obey the laws. As it is, the majority ignore them.
It is easy to ignore laws that aren’t convenient to you personally, but abiding by laws that protect the whole of society will make life better for everyone
Denial is a powerful thing…
So what does that mean?
Q80saracen wrote: “I ask this of both the expats and the Kuwaitis: do we really want unemployed individuals to be able to roam around Kuwait freely with no system in place to monitor their activity?”
That’s a good question. Under the current sponsorship system Kuwait currently has a large number of unemployed individuals who roam the country. For example, all the maids I’ve hired… and fired. Each of them paid their Kuwaiti sponsor for their work visa, and their sponsor had no job for them. They were left to search for employment on their own, and through word of mouth they were able to find jobs.
Unless you attach a tracking device such as a RFID tag to each expat you’ll have no way of monitoring them. (And the Ministry will forgot to order them, so there will be a huge backlog.) But I reckon many of Kuwait’s sponsors currently have no idea where their sponsored expats are too.
I think Lex also brings up some valid points about the (under)reported crime rate.
I thought the picture was in Dubai ..
the city really changed
And Kuwaitis commit 0 crimes?
No photoshop in this picture, this is \kuwait city taken from the sea heading to Sharq and facing dasman palace
Everybody brought up valid points which are worth consideration:
Lex says that the countries that Kuwaitis visit do not monitor the people that enter their State and have “no such controls”. That simply isn’t true. Once you enter Europe, or the United States, you are identified through a biometric scan. The purpose of your visit has to be pre-declared: tourism, business, student. Should one stray from his pre-declared purpose, one risks immidiate deportation and denial of entry. A Kuwaiti student working part-time at grocery store at the US, or even as a TA risks getting deported (it has happened). When a European or an American visits Kuwait, they experience much more visitation freedom than Kuwaitis abroad: they get their visas at the airport and do not have to declare their purpose. In addition, there is no biometric scans. When you say countires that “Kuwaiti nationals are so eager to visit on a regular basis”, please keep in mind that none of those countries offers the “visitation freedom” to Kuwaitis that we offer to them. But speaking about visitation is simply off topic…
In terms of their immigration, European states have lost track of migrant workers throughout the years and are paying a heavy price for it. The burden on their social and cultural fabric is immense, and is causing polarization between the segments of their nations. We can’t turn back the clock, but I wonder if they would have acted so callously if they new the result would be pockets of foreign countries with their own.
I know that an expat may take offense to the idea of being monitored, but it is not uncommon practice within nations. Ask anyone who has studied in The US and had to make regular visits to the Immigration Department.
Finally, asking questions such as, “How high is the suicide rates compared to other countries? How many crimes don’t get reported through fear of retribution from sponsor?”, is just counterproductive. It assumes and insinuates much more information than it provides. After all, do you know how many? Finland is an affluent nation, with wealth and stability…yet it has the highest suicide rate in the world. Are the Fins unhappy with their worker’s program?
The program which replaces sponsorship has to have a way to monitor individuals in the country. Every Kuwaiti citizen has their fingerprint on file when they are 18, and address recorded. No one is asking anything of expats they do not do themselves. At the end, its in everyone’s interest.
@John
You’re absolutely right. Kuwaitis commit crimes every day. However, because Kuwaitis are registered with social security (ta2meenat ilijtimaa3eeya), with the Ministry of Interior (civil ID), as well as other ministries (Health and even Finance): you always know where a Kuwaiti lives and works. Also, when Kuwaiti citizens reach the age of 18, they have register with biometric fingerprint scans.
Fingerprint + Record of Housing = Easy to Catch Criminal
The only system in place for expats is the iqaama program, along side the civil ID which goes back to the iqaama program. I didn’t mean to suggest that Kuwaitis are not capable of being bad. All societies have the bad and the good…I’d like expats to be protected from bad Kuwaitis just as much as I’d like Kuwaitis to be protected from bad expats 😉
Funny how Kuwait is going absolutely the opposite direction of the whole world in EVERYTHING and not trying to exclude ANYTHING!
I don’t see how this ‘new’ system is going to solve anything. The UK has introduced the sponsorship system recently (beginning of this year?). Kuwaiti students now can’t sponsor themselves anymore and the University will have to act as our sponsors!
LoL @ our government ‘thinkers’. I bet most of their decisions are made based on google ‘im feeling lucky’ button search result.
lol
i was so happy to hear that they decided to abolish the sponsorship system, a young man wanted to quit his job and come work in my company because they refused to pay him for 2 months for no valid reason.. Once he sent his resignation letter they put him in jail for a week! its so unfair 🙁 so if you ‘sponsor’ is some heartless person ur life will be hell here:( and thats not right to treat the expats that way.. in the end of the day, here in kuwait we rely on them for most of the labor taking place, domestic, construction, etc. so we should be thankful and respectful
its true?