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Endangered Sea Turtle Brutally Killed in Kuwait

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Over the weekend a video went viral showing an endangered sea turtle being killed on a beach in Kuwait. In the very graphic video (which I won’t share on this blog), one man is seen sitting on top of the large turtle with a small kitchen knife in his hand while his family and friends can be heard in the background encouraging him to cut off the turtles head. You can even hear a voice of a woman and a child in the video, both in support of the killing. Once the perpetrator starts cutting off the turtles head, a second man comes into the video frame to help hold the turtle down. Once the head is cut off the child in the background yells out that he wants the head while everyone else watches the now dead and decapitated turtle bleed on the beach.

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The Environment Public Authority (EPA) is now offering a KD3,000 reward to anyone who can identify the people in the video. It’s a very horrific crime but animal abuse sadly isn’t very rare in Kuwait. Last year some guys were driving around with shotguns shooting and decapitating stray dogs and then posting pictures all over Instagram and they were never punished so I am hoping this time around the perpetrators will be punished and made an example of.

Most of the articles on the sea turtle killing are in Arabic but KUNA have a poorly written piece on it which you could read [Here]

116 replies on “Endangered Sea Turtle Brutally Killed in Kuwait”

It’s appalling to witness this reaction. I comp. tely understand, and wholeheartedly agree, that these beautiful turtles should be protected. I also agree that the guilty party should be punished. However, a reaction of this magnitude is unwarranted and downright stupid.

These turtles are beautiful animals, but they are animals nonetheless. If you think that the perpetrators deserve to be slapped with anything more than a reasonable fine (a couple of Ks at most), then your a fucking moron.

Some people are even calling for life in prison. I mean talk about lack of perspective.

People die preventable deaths every day and no beats an eye, kill a animal and everyone looses their fucking heads!

Who died and made you God? You seem to determine lack of perspective, appropriate payment, heirarchy, etc. all on your own.

Human beings are part of the animal kingdom too genius. Do yourself some good and read up on how many serial killers have a history of animal abuse. To torture an animal like this exceeds the boundaries of human decency worthy of more than just a “reasonable fine” determined by losers like you.

It is appalling to witness your reaction to this.

Lol are you serious? People get up in arms about animal and people being killed all the time! The problem here is that these people lack empathy to a creature and brutally killed it as though it was nothing. The reason why people want harsh punishments is so that people understand that you can’t go around doing this crap.

The point isn’t that it’s preventable, the point is these people gathered around and cheered on needless violence.

That is the issue, not that an animal is being killed.

why do you think people are dying? most of the criminals would probably have killed animals.

killing animals shows a sign of criminal mind with no mercy.

We all know nothing will be done, the way maids are mistreated and other animals are abused as well. If they are identified wasta will prevail. It is up to the citizens of Kuwait to change this, so does anyone think anything will be done?

Actually, something will be done.

Kuwait sentenced several Kuwaitis to death for murdering maids recently. Maids are mistreated in Lebanon and Jordan too. Maids are also mistreated in Singapore. Kuwait is not the only country in the world where maids are mistreated.

I wonder if a serial killer ever goes – BUT IM NOT THE ONLY SERIAL KILLER!

Kuwait is not the only country but it is one of the few. deal with it. And the VAST majority of people who have killed maids here still walk free

https://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/11/29/domestic-workers-nannies-maids-abuse-pay-study/

In the United States, domestic workers are excluded from many of the legal protections afforded to other classes of worker, including the provisions of the National Labor Relations Act.[4] Traditionally domestic workers have mostly been women and are likely to be immigrants.[5] A California bill formerly known as AB 889 nearly offered legal protections including mandatory overtime pay and breaks but was vetoed in September 2012 by Gov. Jerry Brown.[6] taken from Wikipedia

https://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/27/the-invisible-world-of-domestic-work-report-documents-abuses/

https://www.domesticworkersunited.org/index.php/en/pressroom/press-releases/item/117-national-survey-finds-domestic-workers-suffer-abuses-illegal-in-most-labor-sectors

https://www.domesticworkers.org/homeeconomics/summary

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/28/undocumented-migrants-worker-abuse-deportation

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/female-farmworkers-abuse-report_n_1519972.html

https://www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=40468

These are all links to information about Domestic and Migrant Worker abuse in the US. Now, don’t get me wrong. The US is not the only place outside of the GCC that also has a lot of the same problem. I use it as an example because I come from there and to not give someone the opportunity to accuse me of not mentioning it. I just think that we need to be fair. The Kuwaitis who abuse their maids should be prosecuted and dealt with the same as anyone from any other country who does the same should be. I just think that instead of being jealous of Kuwaitis and always dissing them, we should care more about ourselves. In the end if you suffer injustices here than you should go somewhere else. This is what I was always told in the US and that is what I did. Still, the US has also been a place where others have prospered and love it there as they should. The same is the same for Kuwait and the Expats here. I am sure if you pick up a California or Arizona Newspaper and then cut out the parts that mention California, Arizona or even Mexico you will find that there really is no difference in the garbage that is spewed by Politicians in regard to immigrants stealing jobs from US Citizens that you find here in Kuwait. To quote the comedian George Lopez, ” If an immigrant is stealing your job, than your job sucks!”.

I agree. These people are always dissing Kuwaitis due to jealousy and preconceived misconceptions.

While jealousy is a motive for dissing Kuwaitis, there is also the fact that some of the Kuwaitis tend to think that they are better than everyone else. So much so that they can be verbally and physically abuse to us Expats. Of course, I am not saying all. I just want to be fair about it.

Most Kuwaitis don’t think they’re better than everyone else.

That’s just a tiny minority.

Yes, they are in jail.
Yes, they have been sentenced to death.

Has the said death sentence been carried out?

Or maybe they will get pardoned this Eid, next National/Liberation Day or next Eid.

Is this right?

Most people who’ve been sentenced to death remain on death row until they die.

The Emir rarely pardons people. Throughout the last 10 years, the Emir has only pardoned people ONCE, which was a pardon given to Twitter users.

You really have no idea what you’re talking about.

i dunno i think you guys are crazy man. @Kuwaiti you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about so I’m not going to bother arguing with you. Unless of course you can give me a LIST of ppl prosecuted – which i would then return with my own list.

Also it confuses me that you think ppl are jealous of kuwaitis. What would I be jealous of? I can date who I want, marry who i want (and not just my cousin), be a homosexual without having the entire culture shun me (im not but if i was, that is what would happen), can do art, play music, raise a child without the help of a nanny, and take care of my own shit?

Jealousy is just – wow – so off the mark. It really does make me think SOME Kuwaitis are even more narcisstic than is often thought. I REALLY don’t think ppl are as jealous of Kuwaitis as half you guys seem to think.

Ibrahim, your facts are appreciated and anyone anywhere that treats ppl like this should be put under lock and key. But the fact is the stats for Kuwait are hugely understated … however pretty soon that will change. Also your statement that if ppl dont like it they should leave, is ignorant… sorry but it is.

Im sure a murdered nanny would receieve a lot more attention in the US than here. But if you dont believe that, well then who am I to try and educate you!?

Most Kuwaitis don’t marry their cousins. Some Kuwaitis marry their cousins but the majority of Kuwaitis don’t marry their cousins

You’re so ignorant.

Many Kuwaiti youth date, stop pretending you’re an expert on Kuwaitis

There are thousands of Kuwaiti musicians. Kuwait is the central music influence in the GCC, most musicians and actors in the Gulf are from KUWAIT

Kuwaitis are well-known in the region for their music, we have produced thousands of musicians and legendary actors

Kuwait has a long tradition of theatre arts and series. Kuwaiti theatre is the most famous in the Arabian Peninsula region.

You’re too ignorant. I’m curious, where do you come from?

1. Most Kuwaitis choose who they marry. We have free choice when it comes to marriage. Most Kuwaitis don’t marry their cousins.

2. Listening to music is very common among Kuwaitis. There are thousands of Kuwaiti musicians. Listening to music is socially acceptable in Kuwait, there are many Kuwaiti girls at ‘The Wanted’ music concert at the moment.

3. Many Kuwaiti teenagers date. Dating is the norm in the Kuwaiti youth sub-culture.

You are so racist and ignorant. Your views on Kuwaitis are largely shaped by racist misconceptions. You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

@djelibaby, are you retarded?

kuwaitis can marry who they want, play music and do arts. being a homosexual isnt socially acceptable in all MUSLIM countries

Are you trolling or just really retarded? how many years have you lived in kuwait? wtf

Okay here’s my take on this.

No, I don’t think expats living in Kuwait are jealous of Kuwaitis. As a matter of fact in the last few years, I don’t think anyone, anywhere is.

Yes we are proud, yes we are thankful for what we have but no Kuwaiti should feel superior to any other nationality, race, or religion.

We don’t support the gay community because Kuwait is relitavely a conservative muslim country. Now that I think about it, I don’t think Christianity nor Judaism support gays either. And you making sure to mention that you’re not gay sure sounded homophobic to me.

As far as you stereotying Kuwaitis with whatever crap you said, I find that ironic and plain stupid.

I agree bad things happen all over the place not just Kuwait, Just seems here people know how much they can get away with and take it to the extreme too often. On the other hand I know plenty of locals who go out of their way to teat all people with respect an honor and dignity.

I am sure they will find the people who did this and they will be brought in a big deal will be made about it sentences given, then quietly they will be let go out the back door when he gets the level of wasta to make it all go away after all it was only an animal. when the power that be decide to provide rights to all defenseless human and other rights this will continue over and over again. Remember the brave Kuwaiti dog killers so brave and brutal!

The Kuwaiti dog killers weren’t real Kuwaitis, they were Iranians who have Kuwaiti passports.

3ayam are Kuwaitis of Irani descent. I know, lol, I been here a while and was even married to a Kuwaitiah. Still I also know that 3ayam tend to be discriminated against by those who are Aseelee. Its funny because many Expats think that discrimination is only done against them. They don’t know about the discrimination between Kuwaitis themselves. Growing up, I went through alot of discrimination and that’s why I really hate discrimination of any kind.

Most Shia Kuwaitis are of Persian ancestry

Shia Kuwaitis are not actually discriminated, we don’t have major sectarian tensions in Kuwait

Ibrahim, us expats know more than you think. After all, we are responsible for the Indian-Kuwaitis, Filipino-Kuwaitis, South American-Kuwaitis, American and Brit Kuwaitis etc etc and so might know even MORE about racism amongst Kuwaitis. And most educated expats realise that there are different classes, ethncities and income groups among Kuwaitis.

However it was only a matter of time before the racism towards expats, got reflected back on the Kuwaiti communities. It was bound to happen at some point. Not great, but inevitable

djelibaby: Kuwaitis were racist to one another before the expatriates ever came to Kuwait

There were thousands of Persians and Africans living in Kuwait before the discovery of oil

Expatriates are not responsible for Indian-Kuwaitis because most Indian-Kuwaitis immigrated to Kuwait before the discovery of oil

Most Indian-Kuwaitis are descendants of merchants from the pre-oil days

I have great respect for kuwaitis lots if our friends are animal lovers and activists but in general animals has no rights in kuwait or any arab countries which is related to tradition but not religion this video went viral but no action will be taking in Europe or in US the athouruties wikk do something here only turtle who cares but they dobt know tgey destroy nature and also kids shouldn’t watch that God help arab…. im egyptian

Simple man – exactly. I know plenty of MORE than decent Kuwaitis. Last week a kuwaiti guy made sure that a check out counter guy paid attention to me before him – first time Ive had that happen but its happening more and more nowadays. But you still have jackasses on comments boards who would rather defend the country (an imaginary border linking people with imaginary constructs) no matter what it does

Kuwaitis were racist to one another before the expatriates ever came to Kuwait

There were thousands of Persians and Africans living in Kuwait before the discovery of oil

Expatriates are not responsible for Indian-Kuwaitis because most Indian-Kuwaitis immigrated to Kuwait before the discovery of oil

Most Indian-Kuwaitis are descendants of merchants from the pre-oil days

yeah but there ARE indians who have married kuwatis more recently. im talking about those. of course the others exist too.

Narrated Asma’ bint Abi Bakr: The Prophet prayed the eclipse prayer, and then said, “Hell was displayed so close that I said, ‘O my Lord ! Am I going to be one of its inhabitants?”‘ Suddenly he saw a woman. I think he said, who was being scratched by a cat. He said, “What is wrong with her?” He was told, “She had imprisoned it (i.e. the cat) till it died of hunger.” (Al Bukhari)
If a women was tortured in Hell-fire for that, imagine what those who brutally killed that Sea Turtle will face. As for mistreating maids, I have seen Indians and Westerners treat their maids worse than any Kuwaiti I have seen mistreat his or her maid. Besides, Kuwaitis do not have a monopoly on domestic servant abuse. You should hear some of the stories that domestic servants have to go through in the US. I only say that because I have know a few.

Their point is to deflect. Apparently “we’re not unusually bad by comparison” is a standard to aspire to now.

I don’t understand where people got this idea that any criticism involves a comparison. We all know bad things happen everywhere else, but we don’t bother discussing them because WE DON’T LIVE THERE. Other nations doing worse or better isn’t going to change anything for us.

You brought the sadness again 🙁
I honestly can’t believe why, I mean are they eating it or something?!!
I really hope someone catches them especially after seeing their faces.

What kind of a person would do such a horrible thing? A devil I can confirm. It’s not human to want to do such things. Truly feel sorry for the wives, children and above all, the live in domestic maids these animals have at home.

I am in no way condoning this but that seems a bit extreme. A fine sure, maybe jail time for repeat offenders.

U’re comparing shooting overpopulated stray dogs that attack people with the killing of endangered harmless turtle??

When you kill and torture an animal it doesn’t matter if the animal is a dog, a shark or a harmless turtle. Abuse is abuse there is no excuse.

@Mark, I’m not talking about torturing, I’m talking about killing stray dogs. You have a problem with that? Do you think in the US they pat them once they are taken off the streets?

Have you ever watched a kids movie? You heard of “putting them to sleep”? Thats not putting them in bed… its actually means killing them!

3azeez you’ve been posting here for a long time now and even though we don’t disagree at times I always had respect for you. But, now after this comparison you just made, I’ve lost all respect for you and your opinions. I actually think it’s a waste of my time even writing this post but I’m going to do it in hopes maybe, just maybe you’ll realize what an idiotic comparison you just made.

Humanely capturing and euthanizing stray dogs is not the same as driving around with a shotgun on your lap shooting random dogs while you’re sitting in your car. If you watched any of the videos I had posted you would have seen the dogs don’t die instantly and instead slowly and painfully which is what torturing is. If you’d like to know how dogs are captured and euthanized humanely here in Kuwait check out this old post of mine which has details on the steps and effort taken to insure the stray dogs are treated humanely. https://248am.com/mark/animals/tag-along-with-ks-path/

Nope.. I think Mark is quiet right in what he said. We have the same problem in my country and the Government is taking steps to “do the right thing” by acting humanely towards stray dogs.

The whole “humane” part is up for debate. Not just in killing stray animals, but even with killing the animals that we eat!

Again, and thats the third time I emphasis… I am not talking about torturing animals… I am talking about shooting stray dogs. And to be honest, I’m only talking about because each and every single person in my family, and most of our neighbors have experienced an incident with those stray dogs…. and I live in a suburban area within the capital! Go imagine how the situation is elsewhere in the country.

Again.. its not for us to pick up a gun and shoot the dogs. There is an ‘entity’ called the Government or an animal organisation who can put those dogs down in a decent manner. As for being attacked by them, I have been a recipient of such an attack and have taken 14 injections back in the day when I was a kid to treat it. So I know first hand how it feels to be attacked by them. But picking up a gun and shooting them while at the same time recording it so as to glorify the whole damn thing is WRONG

for a post that a waste of your time you seem to spend too much thought answering. Anyways, like you lost all your precious respect to 3azeez, i lost all respect i had for you for the childish answer.
It’s irrelevant what you feel towards dog. Killing an endangered animal is not like killing over populated stray dog. It is like that and has been and will always be, EVERYWHERE

I think what Mohammed is saying is that some lives are more valuable than others; some things are more right, and some things are more wrong. Does the life of an endangered species have more value than that of a prolific one? What about a threatened species vs. near-threatened? I’m curious to know where you draw the line. Most people draw the line somewhere between the farm and the jungle, but not for any truly logical reason. We preserve animals for the same reason we hoard gold: it’s pretty and rare. Do those dogs therefore deserve a cruel, pitiless, and gory death just because they have the misfortunate of not being rare? The sea-turtle feels pain and agony in just the same way but is less able to communicate it’s distress. There is no moral ambiguity here–only excuses and slippery-slope logic and justification. The reality is that we have a moral obligation to demonstrate our compassionate and empathetic humanity to all species.

This made me very sad.. so depressing.. how can people have the heart to do something like this to that poor turtle?

I’d pay from my own pocket some extra money to get those animals (in human form) to be arrested for this and sent to prison for life!

I saw the video. Based on the accent of the guys talking, they were Bedu or Saudis in Kuwait. It sounds like the Saudi Najdi accent, very thick accent.

The perpetrators are most likely Saudis.

They are most likely Saudi tourists, it’s unlikely that they will ever get identified.

The accent of the guys in the video is Saudi Najdi

And to think these creatures walked this planet thousands of years way before man, and along come a bunch of fackards and snuff out precious innocent life, with no remorse or consequence. There should be some justice, if not in our manmade law atleast under God’s law. We all have to pay for our actions. ALL .

Take it easy, sea turtles are considered a delicacy in many costal cities around the world, tastes and looks like beef.I was in Lebanon mountains once and I was invited by the towns elders for a feast (porcupine) someone saw it at night crossing the road and he ran over it intentionally, it used to be a delicacy in the Gulf as well in the past.

But that doesn’t mean that they should still slaughter some random, and possibly endangered, turtle.

ok question though – cruelty for cruelty’s sake is just assholic – we all know that. But does anyone know WHY they did this? Were they planning on eating it? DOnt udnerstand arabic so wouldnt know

You are very ignorant. Your views on Kuwaitis are largely shaped by racist misconceptions. You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

haha, with you and ib I thought I was witness to Kuwait’s first civil partnership. BTW what is the difference between literally having no idea, and having no idea?

I’m a girl, why would there be a civil partnership between me and Ibrahim?

You people are very ignorant, your views are largely shaped by racist misconceptions.

I agree with your remarks about djelibaby… But that has nothing to do with his comment!! He didn’t show any racism, just asking a question.

This is always my favorite response because it’s pretty much always garbage.

A lot of expats have been born and raised here. Eventually y’all will have to deal with the criticism instead of screaming BUT THE US IS JUST AS BAD and accusing us of not knowing our lived experience.

i heard turtles r very tastey . they r a favorit dish in the south pacific ocean
so we cant eat them here ?

not all turtles are endangered. and anyway i was referring to the pigs balls. you can still get turtle soup in chinatown in canada. I see no issue with it.

I’m sorry to see that this turtle was killed for amusement .Just like all the bea eaters; foxes, dhub lizards, monitor lizards (waral), and wildlife in general. Nothing has changed.

The world is full of shit and you just experienced one of the shats … Funny how people fight racism by racism… Thank God I have friends from all over and with different to none religions… This is un human ! And its wrong if he’s kuwaiti or none Kuwaiti what they did is wrong and we all agree no need to pick on the majority of the country for few wobble heads laying around

A bunch of sadistic ignorant idiots who have no value for the life of an animal! If i knew who these people are would have run them down with my car…

Kuwaiti :you give the impression that real Kuwaitis descend from the royal families of Prussia and Bavaria. A few years back a Kuwaiti with 2 kilos of rice and a dried fish in his mud house is considered a Millionaire. Calm down and walk on planet Earth with the rest of us.I am a Kuwaiti by the way so hold your horses.

The Kuwaiti merchant families of Al-Ghanim and Al-Hamad were worth millions of dollars before the discovery of oil.

A few years back, most Kuwaitis were starving because of 15 year economic blockades against Kuwait by the British Empire and Saudi Arabia. Prior to the economic blockades, Kuwait’s economy was prosperous and Kuwait was a mercantile hub which attracted merchants from many different countries in the world. Go read history.

The trade blockades were in place for 15 consecutive years.

Dear Kuwaiti you seem very informed and dedicated to telling the truth. Honestly this country needs you in the government I’m not being sarcastic here you should run for parliament you may be able to make a difference. If I could vote I would vote for you it seems you really care hope you make it.

I read what mark wrote on blog about the turtle and made me feel sad
and i read some of the comments and made me feel worst !!!
why we care about the guy passport, nationality or religion. !!
The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens
What the guy did to a peacful turtle was very evil and wrong.
Torturing any living soul is BIG WRONG

Just the other day, Dubai’s ruler Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum issued a new decree to establish six new wildlife sancturaries in the emirate. “The legislation aims to protect natural habitats and wildlife in Dubai and to preserve the natural resources in these areas”, WAM said.
Here lies the core of the problem, when you lack leadership in government where there is a direct lack of interest in the society in a GCC country like Kuwait, the people don’t respect the country. Government plays a formative role in these types of societies that strongly effect the social mindset of these countries. I have never heard of Emiraties committing such atrocities in their nation, because they have a government that openly shows the people how much they care for their nation through development and through building wildlife sanctuaries that was outlined in the decrees announced the other day in the UAE. Sure upbringing plays a key role in this situation, but government’s role in society like Kuwait may even play a greater role.

Yeah, because THAT’S the problem – democratic system. As if other countries with democratic systems don’t pass laws.

Give it up man.

@burhan I think you misunderstood me. I probably should have elaborated. What I meant was that with a democratic system it is more dificult to pass laws. It take more time, with lobbying and voting in Senate and Congress. It can take years and even decades to pass a law. Thats what I meant by it being easier for the UAE to pass laws. I can see how what I commented could have been misunderstood.

how did this video get leaked online? you should first find the persons account who posted this on which so ever website and find out info on the person and approach that person first

This is exactly why I feel that we should not have a zoo here. People treat pets as an accessory and obviously, there’s a lot of kids out here that hate animals.

What upsets me is that a mother and child watched this happen live in front of them and liked it.. makes me wonder what kind of upbringing that child has or what sort of family values exist in that family???

I shield my daughter from TV Violence and craziness because she is still a child and I am instilling in her values that will teach her to respect all living things.

Yet when I see this I ask myself is it any wonder or should we be suprised that we have sadisitic people amongst us who enjoy torturing defenseless animals or inflicting pain on others?

How can we point a finger at a person who has grown up in a family believing its normal. Daddy cut the head off?? Thats sick!!! And for the parent to do it just confirms for the child that this is normal behaviour. So he will grow up to be another head cutter.

3000 KWD is a joke.. coz his clan will cough up 3 or 4 times as much to mount a legal defense which will revolvle around a temporary insanity defense or a fishing for food while being ignorant about the turtle being endangered defense and they will all walk away scott free..

No what needs to be done is prison time a minimum of 5 to 7 and no chance for parole. Then the guy will learn never to take life for granted.

Maybe that will teach the kid as well what daddy did was wrong !!!

My bad.. 3000 KWD was reward offered offerd by KEPA not a fine as I had assumed. Either way a fine wont work and who will snitch on these guys ?? Like I said imprison the MOFO !!!! Matter of fact imprison the mofo and torture him by putting him in a cell which with a TV and set it to the Baby Channel 24/7 with the volume up to full. 5 years of that continously non stop should be be enough to fix him 🙂

OH MY GOD,
Have people lost all compassion and heart in Kuwait, how would those people like if I take a small kitchen knife and start cutting them. We are all God Creatures and we all deserve to live no one give the right to anyone to take a life being human or animal. I stand up for animal rights because they cannot defend themselves, it is said that we are the more intelligent species on this earth but maybe they overlook some of the citizens of Kuwait because for sure those people who did such cruelty have no brains what so ever, and I truly hope they get what they deserve.
I was sick to my stomach reading this blog, and felt so bad for the turtle, how unfortunate it found its way here. I wish I was on the beach I would have given them a piece of my mind. They are dumb F….

haven’t seen the video. If the turtle was really killed this way, it is highly possible that the killer intended to eat it or killed it for sport….it may sound insane, but it seems that for the perpetrators, they didn’t see any wrong with what they were doing…

Can the law prosecute them for this act(assuming that there is a law that covers such an act, in the first place)..quite likely..

Even if there is a law…can they be identified, located, caught and punished…highly unlikely….

If the killers had even the slightest mindset that they were doing something wrong, they wouldn’t have done it…

but it seems they didn’t..to them it was okay…and that is where the problem is…the humanity didn’t come from within..

All humans are animals…it’s just that some of us are wild while others are domesticated…

Did they ever catch the culprit and punish him? His face is on camera. Should’nt be too difficult if they legitimately wanted to.

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