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Ayshay by Fatima Al Qadiri

Multi-talented Kuwaiti artist and musician Fatima Al Qadiri is the producer and vocalist behind Ayshay. I just heard her latest track called WARN-U and although I didn’t like it I do like the remix of it which you can hear at the bottom of the post. From what I heard her music has been gaining a lot of recognition lately in the underground scene in New York but haven’t really heard anything about her locally.

Fuelled by her fascination with the sacred songs of Islam ‘WARN-U’ is a homage and reinterpretation of the sounds that have haunted Al Qadiri since she was a child. Constructed entirely out of her own vocals, which she filtered and layered upon one another ‘WARN-U’ is Al Qadiri’s attempt to reconfigure the concept of ‘sacred’ music as inspiring divine love and divine fear.

She’s always been pretty weird (in a good way) so it’s no surprise really she would come up with something like this. For more information on her upcoming album click [Here]

Ayshay – WARN-U (Nguzunguzu Remix) by TriAngleRecords

Update: You can check out the music video below, looks like it was shot in Kuwait. (Note: turns out it was shot in Qatar)


[YouTube]

165 replies on “Ayshay by Fatima Al Qadiri”

There is no second opinion about the talent here.
But sorry Mark,
There is no such thing as ‘sacred’ MUSIC in Islam and Iam sure you know that.

The Dervishes have nothing to do with Islam . Islam is not an ” I’ll put my two cents in ” Religion . there is no Innovation in Islam .Islam is what was revealed By Allah , Via Gibraeel to the prophet Muhammad Peace be Upon him in the Quraan and what he Said and Did ( the Sunnah ) which was ALL passed down to us by the his companions . There is no Catholic vs Protestant point of view , only the Quraan and the sunna as interpreted by the Companions . There are no songs in Islam . Sufism is not Islam .

@Muslim

Dogmatism is not a virtue. You don’t have a monopoly on the truth despite what they taught you in school. The Dervishes say they are Muslim, that makes them Muslim whether you like it or not. Your God will decide who’s who later (if at all), not you right now.

GWB, it’s weird how some people feel it’s important to decide who is Muslim and who isn’t, or are arrogant enough to suggest they know better than someone else what their faith is.

@GWB @D.

PLEASE READ WHAT HE WROTE!

Muslim didnt say who is or not a muslim .. he said WHAT IS or not part of ISLAM… the issue of people being muslim or not is up to God.

And no one has a monopoly on truth but God and what he passed to his Messenger (pbuh)…

Muslims point that the Quran and Sunna is the only source of Islam and what the Dervishs do is NOT PART OF ISLAM …is seen here:

1.عن أم المؤمنين عائشة رضي الله عنها قالت : قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( من أحدث في أمرنا هذا ما ليس منه فهو رد ) رواه البخاري و مسلم

2. (وكل بدعة ضلالة وكل ضلالة في النار) رواه النسائي

The prophet (pbuh) nor his campanions ordered or did this as part of ISLAM .. i.e. the Dervishs.

Dont jump to conclusions.

They didn’t play instruments when they did greet prophet Mohammad pbuh, al 6abal is accepted in islam just not Music instruments and again Sufis are Bed3a, the prophet never said we worship god through music neither is the Quran like what sufis does

“Ay Shay” is a rather apt title. Herp derp “assalamu alaikum x100” “aaaaAAAAHHH” = influenced by Islamic music whoopdedoo.

” ‘WARN-U’ is a homage and reinterpretation of the sounds that have HAUNTED Al Qadiri since she was a child.” I don’t doubt that she’s been haunted. Her track sounds like jinn getting interviewed during exorcism.

Maybe I’m backwards and unsophisticated, but I don’t so how this artsy fartsy stuff is meaningful in any way. It’s just a bunch of random ass Arabic words strung together and chanted hypnotically. This shit appeals only to foreign hipsters who think listening to weird stuff like this keeps them hip. I certainly don’t see how all that bs about reconfiguring sacredness (whatever that means) applies to the content, and I also think there’s zero influence by any Islamic music. Again, this only appeals to hipsters who don’t know wha they’re listing to.

Inb4 you’re just a hater

Ever heard of the saying “To each his own”? You should get out more.There’s a weird & wonderful world out there.

Ok brb going out. Will report back. Btw welcome to the Internet where people share their opinions in the comments section.

@Lulz!! completely agree!! I know a bit late commenting on all of this but I was just informed about fatima. I think that its weird and unappealing to me personally since its not artistic whatsoever, just plain weird. People misunderstand the difference between sophistication and stupid nonsense.

lol at the reactions, no surprise there
i’d love to see this dubstep’d actually

she is pretty talented. not exactly my style but her material def. speaks

I don’t know why there are so many negative comments, I think it’s a pretty good track. This genre of music is pretty trendy, it sort of reminds me of Amon Tobin or How to Dress Well.

I really didn’t like it at all not even for a second , i got a stomach ache ! X( you see this gives a bad impression of Islam to other people in the world !

lulz. you guys are tooooooo much

it’s no one’s problem that you guys are incapable of understanding this, but to complain that a kuwaiti musician is being too “artsy fartsy” (weeeei33 3ala hal expression essakheef) is just mind boggling. as if kuwait is DROWNING in artsiness!!! get back to your pinkberry/starbucks-hopping and your syrupy khaliji music on 103.7 o fukkouna alla ykhaleekom

kthnxbi

Herp derpity derp. As if you understand this yourself. I don’t care that it’s a Kuwaiti “musician”, that was just my objective assessment of what has been seen and cannot be unseen. Nowadays people get too hung up on the “Kuwaiti label” and forget to evaluate the actual content. We’re so desperate we just want anything made by Kuwaitis. Well in this case it just happens to be crappy. I’m sorry but that’s my honest opinion. Herp derp Kuwaiti techno. Herp derp Kuwaiti rap. Herp derp Kuwaiti R&B. Herp derp Kuwaiti country music (lol). The only honest objective opinion is that they all suck. I’d say the same thing if it were an American artist or an Azerbaijani artist or a Martian artist.

And FYI, I think lovey dovey khaleeji music is crappy too and I’ve never had Pinkberry in my life (but I do like Starbucks so sue me for being a conformist). I won’t pretend, however, that nonsensical random music is any better. It doesn’t have to be one way or the other. I don’t have to be into retarded all singing all dancing khaleeji music or cryptic random elitist edgy music that no one understands. this is a false dichotomy.

I have no clue what sacred Islamic songs this woman grew up with. This is an example of Islamic art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dGisCH-HA

Ah, that just made me feel happy and peaceful. On the other hand, this Lady Gaga in a burga3 music evoked nothing but feelings of confusion and depression. I find it anti-spiritual if anything.

Forget that she’s even Kuwaiti, but just because you don’t “get it”, enjoy or appreciate this genre of music doesn’t automatically make it crap. There are a lot of people that are into the drone ambient music genre, which I think this would be categorized under.

Music is subjective, the fact that you’re here debating this with us shows that Ayshay as an artist has achieved her goal, you’re discussing her art, her music. It might mean something to one person, and something else to another, art is meant to be analyzed and discussed.

That’s the beauty of music, some people will love certain genre’s and artists, while others will hate it. It defines us as a people. What’s the point of you being so judgmental and negative? Yeah, we get it, the “in” thing is to hate on hipsters (doesn’t that make you one?)

And finally how can you even compare this to Lady Gaga?

I don’t get it and neither do you. No one here gets it. I said it’s crap because that’s my opinion. I’m sure you think certain things are crap. This makes my crap list. Aside from my subjective opinion on how crappy it is as music, I also made an objective and legitimate observation regarding its claimed Islamic influence, namely these bogus sacred songs of Islam.

You just said that art is meant to be analyzed and discussed, then in the same breath you disapprove of me being “judgmental”, when in fact I’m being nothing but analytical. All I did was analyze the music and give my honest opinion. I’m not “hating” on anyone, but I did anticipate to be labeled and dismissed as a hater lol. Either you like this crappy ass music or you’re a hater. Great.

As for the Lady Gaga comparison, well look at the picture. Goofy outfit and creepy ambiance. Looks like Lady Gaga in a burka.

So now you know what other people are thinking? Do you have some kind of Jedi powers? Are you “one” with the Force? It’s not difficult to “get” what her music is about, there isn’t a secret message hidden in it. Her concept is simple. Religion can be divine and beautiful but at the same time, religion can be a scary thing.

Saying something is “crap” isn’t analyzing or discussing anything. I don’t see where you were doing either, you basically said that its random sounds that only appeals to foreigners and hipsters, who don’t know what they’re listening to. Crap this, crap that.

I didn’t label you as a hater, but it just seems like you’re being overly negative, there’s a difference between disliking something and just being really negative. You compare her to Lady Gaga when they’re nothing alike (music or image), the only thing they might have in common is they’re both trying to encourage to analyze and discuss.

Maybe you should read the blog post discussing her album:
https://tri-anglerecords.com/?page_id=35

Here’s something you should read to give you more insight:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_music

Nope, I’m not psychic. But I’ve read people’s comments and no one seems to have an explanation. You didn’t seem to have one either until now, and yours is basically just making things up. I have no idea whatsoever how you came up with that conclusion. From what part exactly did you infer the “religion is divine but scary” dichotomous wisdom thing? That’s not even in her own description.

The description in Mark’s post talks about divine love and divine fear (the type of fear that inspires reverence for God), which is part of Islamic theology (love, fear, and hope). Nothing in the video reflects that however. So when I say that I don’t think you or anyone else here gets it, it’s because I don’t think you can derive those meanings or relate them to anything you see in the video. Neither the vocals nor the lyrics or even the images have anything to do with that. If you think otherwise, explain it to me. Help the poor cultural peasant in me understand this profound and riveting piece of high art.

lulz stop saying shit like “help the poor cultural peasant understand” That was cute a few comments ago, but now you’re just trying to be a smart ass.

I’m not quite sure why you think there has to be one definite meaning to any song, I stand by what I said and if it isn’t “deep” enough for you, I apologize I guess? I’ll try to explain to you how I reached that conclusion, but I know for a fact you wont like it and you’ll come back with another one of your witty remarks.

It’s actually quite simple, it’s the way the track progresses. You have this constant religious chanting that is accompanied with a sustained deep tone, it’s beautiful and haunting. It’s just what I feel when I listen to it, what music sets out to accomplish.

So comment, but I wont reply anymore. There’s no real point to this is there?

I think Patrick’s being a biased little willy.

Here’s why:

Lulz, glad to see someone else pointing out how crappy these “kuwaiti” things are. Went to Solu Pizza the other day and hated it. Everyone blamed me for not supporting it and said I have no taste. It’s a restaurant; I don’t have to like it. The kuwaitis that opened it have my blessings (even though they absolutely suck as waiters).

As for this, the music is music. People will like and hate. 3ade. Doesn’t mean you have to jump on Lulz’s interpretation Patrick. You subject yourself to the same criticisms you so freely gift.

Crappy is an opinion. This. Is. Crappy. Opinion, not fact. Don’t get all worked up Patrick just because your opinion isn’t Lulz’s.

#justsayin

And to you I extend the same invitation I offered the other guy. Go ahead and explain to me what you got out of it. Explain to me rationally the message you got out of the lyrics, vocals, and images. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

So now you know what other people are thinking? Do you have some form of Jedi powers? Are you “one” with the Force? It’s not difficult to “get” what her music is about, there isn’t a secret message hidden in it. Her concept is simple. Religion can be divine and beautiful but at the same time, religion can be a scary thing.

Saying something is “crap” isn’t analyzing or discussing anything. I don’t see where you were doing either, you basically said that its random sounds that only appeals to foreigners and hipsters, who don’t know what they’re listening to. Crap this, crap that.

I didn’t label you as a hater, but it just seems like you’re being overly negative, there’s a difference between disliking something and just being really negative. You compare her to Lady Gaga when they’re nothing alike (music or image), the only thing they might have in common is they’re both trying to encourage to analyze and discuss.

Maybe you should read the blog post discussing her album:
https://tri-anglerecords.com/?page_id=35

Here’s something you should read to give you more insight:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_music

ee 7ayati, I understand it. Again, just because you can’t, doesn’t mean nobody else can.

“elitist”? you seem like a pretty judgmental person yourself…so I wouldn’t call the kettle black, if i were you.

your tone strikes as utterly tk. see or hear something that goes against the herd? you get an involuntary, knee-jerk reaction (read: 6naza)

and the “sacred” music that the official press release from her london-based record company is referring to acapella anasheed and shi3i la6miyat (since she comes from both backgrounds)

anyway, to each their own.

ps: what in the jahannam is “herpy derpy”? is it an std reference?

loool
ps: what in the jahannam is “herpy derpy”? is it an std reference?

loooool does sound quite contagious! lool

Shfeech m39ba mama. You are an elitist though. You were quick to tell me to bump khaleeji songs on my way to starbucks or pinkberry just because I don’t get this music, as if I’m too mainstream and uneducated to comprehend the message behind this music. That’s about as elitist as you can get.

I don’t care if something goes against the herd. I only care about the content. I evaluate what’s presented to me on its own merit, nothing else. You on the other hand want to glorify something just because it goes against the herd, which is just as bad as rejecting something just because it’s different.

I’m aware of nasheeds. I’m a fan. I’ve heard la6miyas too. This resembles neither.

Herp derp is a meme: https://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/3/23/64206c64-a287-4aea-aeff-f59b5428e4f5.jpg

Ya, this content sucks in my humble opinion.

Not everything Kuwaiti is golden. Contrary to popular belief, we do not excrete gold.

well, ur too much as well @salbk ! why all this “anger”?
if you wish to go to strbks & pinkberry and listen to khaliji, go for it! dont judge on their taste and style and places they go to, and act all “sarcastic” and coolio kinda of person ,while ur not accepting their judgemnt about this track,, be fare mr.nice person. and i see that its their opinion to express what they think about it! isnt art all about expressing. 🙂

That was horrible- the video is even worse than the song, and thats saying something. Listening to the music almost made my ears bleed. All vocals were done by her? What vocals? The whining or repeating salam 3alaikum over and over? Not trying to hate, I’m just really annoyed that people think this is talent. Come on Kuwait! You can do better.

It’s weird. I don’t think anyone can argue with that. Personally, I don’t like it. But I won’t persecute her for it. If she makes it big with whatever this kind of music is, then good for her.

There are a lot of things people fight about, and music is the last thing people should fight about.

yeah, it’s of ABSOLUTELY no consequence if people like lulz keep hating, since the most talented people in the music and art world are thoroughly enjoying this. fatima is performing at the Tate Modern and MoMA, and lulz hang loiter at starbucks and complain all she wants…who cares?!

That’s pretty elitist. But I’m pretty consistent with my views, I’d tell all those talented people exactly what I told my art professor back in college in so many words when I was forced to study the work of Jackson Pollock: this crap is meaningless and it sucks. U mad?

Btw I’m a man. I don’t hang out at starbucks or anywhere else. I go to work and come back home. That’s literally all I do with my life. You’ve probably had more frappuccinos than I have you angry presumptuous ad hominem abusing elitist.

I admire ayshay’s attempt here. It’s easy for people to judge music. Everyone is biased in all regards, whether it’s music, food or whatever. In this case, I think the couple of tracks I heard were interesting, reminding me of some abstract expressionistic stuff i heard from the 60s. What’s even better is that this artist went ahead and followed through with her vision. Did she intend to enter into Arab Star Academy and gain popular favour? Probably not, otherwise there would be a lot more of the cliche beats and “habibi”s in there. For someone to really experiment and come up with something unique is a great thing. I hope she evolves successfully with her music.

Interesting in a weird way. . .

the nightmare comment . . . lol

the remix is much better than the original

I wish her all the best 🙂 at least she’s being recognized internationally

If this isn’t her reference point, then you’re making things up. Not that this bears any resemblance to Fatima’s work anyway. These are just traditional ahazeej.

I haven’t learned anything. Guess I’ll just keep running my mouth 😉 :* live<3laugh<3love<3

right, nothing sacred about this.

and her reference point is modern anasheed (like the one YOU posted)

“Not that this bears any resemblance to Fatima’s work anyway.” ekh…I mean..whatever, I give up

ياله بدال العالم كلها صايره عنجريز اهني خل أكتب بالعربي :
أول شي أحي الأخ مارك على ذكائه في استقطاب هذا العدد من القراء عن طريق اثاره مواضيع تثير الجدل فكلما كان الموضوع أكثر اثاره للجدل كلما زاد عدد القراء وزاد عدد التعليقات وارتفع التصنيف في موقع اليكسا وطبعا زادت الدعايات اللي في المدونه وخاصه لما يكون صاحب المدونه على ماأعتقد في الأساس يعمل في مجال الأعلان
ثانياَ أحي أيضا فاطمه القادري على ذكائها اللي مايقل عن ذكاء مارك ،فهذه الباحثه عن الشهره تريد أن تستقطب أيضا أكبر عدد من المشاهدين ، فاذا غنت أي أغنيه عاديه مع هذا الكم من المطربين فمن الذي سوف يسمعها؟؟ولكن أسهل طريقه للشهره هي الضرب بالدين والمعتقدات ،متناسيه أن الكويت بلد ديمقراطي اللي تبي تلبس النقاب تلبسه واللي تبي تمشي بالمايوه على شواطي البحر تلبسه يعني ماكو أي حجر عل اللبس ولكن من خلال هالفيديوات والصوت النشاز اللي يكاد أن يسمع استطاعت هذه اللا مغنيه أن تستقطب بعض المشاهدين و المشكله الحقيقيه تكمن في التأثير السلبي الذي سوف يصيب بعض الأشخاص اللي مو فاهمين شنو الغمنده من وراء هالأفكار
وأخيراَ تشير الأحصائيات أن الأسلام اكثر الأديان انتشاراَ في العالم سواء بوجود فاطمه القادري أو بدونها.

وصدق الله العظيم
يُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يُطْفِئُوا نُورَ اللَّهِ بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَيَأْبَى اللَّهُ إِلَّا أَنْ يُتِمَّ نُورَهُ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْكَافِرُونَ

انا صراحة اول مرة اسمع فيها ! بس تعليقج اختي خطيير ! كلامج صح 100% مع اني اسمع اغاني بس كلامج مؤثر صراحة !

Thanks god i don’t listen to her ! Serj Tankian is not Muslim *some says he is * anyways You should listen to him and his Cause instead of this ! he is fighting Illuminati ! where this crap is meaningless

Before Fatma AlQadiri, there was Yoko Ono. At least Yoko was crazy with a purpose and a goal. Her message was PEACE.
I still don’t get this Kuwaiti-Gaga person’s message… and I feel that Fatma is heavily influenced by the real Lady Gaga… almost like a carbon copy of her… It’s sad that today people only focus on getting attention and becoming famous, instead of appreciating art and it’s purpose.
*Link to Yoko Ono’s crazy performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzKEix4PXBU&feature=related
(caution. very annoying sounds) And yes Yoko did appear on stage inside that huge white bag you see her standing near. So Fatma, come up with something new and creative next time, ’cause the bagism idea is old. Challenge yourself a little. I am sick and tired of copy-paste “artists”.

I don’t understand this comparison to Lady Gaga, how is she any way similar? Her music is completely different, their messages are also, completely different. What Yoko Ono was doing is also different than what this artist is accomplishing. Just because this music is “strange” to you, and Yoko Ono’s is “strange”, you link them together? They’re different genre’s of music.

If you’re going to go around labeling her a copycat, than nearly all musicians are unoriginal and “copy-paste”.

What exactly is her message because I don’t get it? And what is art without a clear message?
I do believe that most musicians of today are unoriginal. That’s why they simply blend in with the crowd. And that’s just my opinion. It’s normal to be inspired by other artists,but impersonating them is not accepted. And the original ones tend to stand out quickly.
And yes I agree with you. This artist should not be compared to neither Lady Gaga nor Yoko Ono. It’s too soon for her name to even be mentioned with their names all in one paragraph. However, I did put them in the same category because I felt there was something common between them. Alright … maybe you didn’t feel it and that’s okay.

I am just expressing my personal perception of her work/art. And that’s how art is supposed to be. We don’t all have to enjoy it.

Since when does art have to have a clear message? Part of the enjoyment of art is being able to analyze what the artist is trying to express. Rarely does an artist come out and say “My piece of work means bla bla bla”

I respect your opinion but at the same time I have to disagree with it. Maybe in pop music artists are unoriginal and blend in with the crowd but there are plenty of original musicians who stand out and have amazing records and songs. But then again, this is all subjective isn’t it? Just because I think a musician has an amazing album, doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll think the same.

When I mention Fatima and Lady Gaga or Yoko Ono, I’m not talking about the kind of fame Yoko Ono or Lady Gaga have, who cares about fame? I’m talking about their styles of music, their messages and their image. Which those 3, share nothing in common. If you “feel” that Fatima and Lady Gaga have something in common, then what is it? It can’t be defined? Is it shock value?

I’m not debating this because you didn’t enjoy it, it’s your right not to enjoy it, but because I disagreed with the points you were making (that I pointed out).
And I think Fatima’s message is sort of clear in the track, that religion is a beautiful sacred thing, but simultaneously it can instill fear into you. At least that’s what I took from it.

Ah okay… So that’s the message, huh? See now it’s clear. Interesting point. Very controversial.

🙂 Hey there!
Or should I say “Alsalamo 3alaikom wa ra7mat Allah wa barakatoho” *said with creepy demon voice*
LOL!

I like reading the comments-, as well the positive- as the negative ones. Though I’m in no way an expert in music, but Fatima Al Qadiri appears to me an experimental- or Avant-Garde artist. You don’t have to like her, but you can’t deny that her art-form challenges your ears, eyes and mind. It’s almost impossible not to have an opinion about her (psychedelic) video’s and music. You like- or hate it. – there is no middle-way.
Starting discussions and the search for new boundaries in Art are the main aims of the Avant-Garde movement.

In 1981 Laurie Anderson scored a hit with her piece ‘O Superman’. Very unusual at that time for an Avant Garde artist to be listed in the charts.
A remix became a huge hit in the dance scene.

Art is never a threat to any society.

O Superman by Laurie Anderson (original):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7XnOnSkkA&feature=related

I am not here to debate either some of you like AYSHAY or not ,Because it is human to RESPECT others opinion and a MANNER that shows how good EDUCATED person is ,
I AM a big fan of her work ,and what she does ,But i some of you have a BIG HEART to accept my comments :
1.YOU SHOULD BE A SHAME OF BEING SUCH JUDGMENTAL PERSON , BEFORE YOU SPEAK ABOUT GOD , HAVE SOME MANNERS AND LEAVE JUDGMENTS TO GOD HIM SELF
2.SOME OF YOU CALLED THIS ARTIST(YES AN ARTIST IF U WANT IT OR NOT ) SUCKS,SICK,HORRIBLE,NOT ARTISTIC AT ALL,LOOSER ETC ETC , YOU REALLY SHOULD HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY , U DONT KNOW THAT PERSON ,MAYBE PERSONALLY SHE IS BETTER THAN ALOT OF PPL OR VERY SWEET,SMART AND KIND TO BE TREATED THIS WAY ..ART IS ALL ABOUT OPINIONS ,WHY DONT YOU LEARN TO SAY I JUST DONT LIKE IT WITHOUT SUCH A CHEAP SHALLOW LANGUAGE .DO YOU DEAL WITH PPL IN YOUR LIFE THIS WAY ! IF YES THEN WOWWW NO WONDER WHY THAT ARAB WORLD IS WHERE IT IS NOW WITH PPL LIKE YOUR SELVES SERIOUSLY ..I DONT KNOW HOW A PERSON COULD HAVE SO MUCH HATE FOR PPL THEY DONT KNOW JUST BECAUSE THEY R NOT AT THEIR (STANDARDS ) OF THINKING ..
3.SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING FUNNY HE SAID ART SHOULD UNDERSTOOD JUST BECAUSE HE (DIDNT GET IT ) HE JUST ASSUMED THAT ART IS LIKE ALGEBRA OR SCIENCE ..IT IS NOT , THE GREATEST ARTIST OF ALL TIMES ONCE BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD BY PPL LIKE YOU AND NOW MILLIONS STAND INFRONT OF THIER WORK ADMIRING THEIR (MISUNDERSTOOD) ARTS .

GUYS BE OPEN MINDED ACCEPT EVERYTHING , HAVE A GOOD LANGUAGE TO SPEAK , IF YOU DO SO , U WILL FIND LIFE GETS EASIER KOZ U SIMPLY LET GO WHAT IS DOESNT FIT YOU WITHOUT ACTUALLY BREAKING IT

She is obviously targeting a Western market hungry for stereotyping the image of the Orient or Muslims. This is evident with her initiating the song with “Al Salam Alaikom” and the whole image (i.e. burga3) around the song.

With art, you don’t explain or put titles and descriptions on things…

Sheer No-Talent. Business woman… sure, but who’s not, even pimps are.

And, the song cover image really reeallyy realllly reminds me to an art piece I’ve seen by a Kuwaiti Artist called Shurouq Amin who has instigated this whole burga3 thing, but in a more creative manner.

As demonstrated in the link:
https://www.khaleejesque.com/2010/05/lifestyle/panorama-shurooq-amin/

This applies to her kind:
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves but wiser people so full of doubts”
Bertrand Russell (1872 – 1970)

Bingo.
Also just bc something is labelled as “Art” doesn’t mean it HAS to be good or automatically respected and held to some amazing degree of understanding and supported 100% etc.
Anything can be considered art nowadays anyway so what’s the big deal? I think this song is typical pretentious rubbish and that’s my opinion, so what? did the world blow up? people need to grow up and grow thicker skin.

Ok I just saw this post and as soon as i saw the name, then saw the pix, I knew it was her. This girl was with me in highschool and those who know me would concur ; I have 1 word to say : FRUITCAKE.

Bloody hell. I don’t know anything about her and thought the post and comments would give a nice intro… Having scanned the comments I can’t believe how much time people have!

Oh and the ‘music’ is rubbish btw.

Hopefully someone reads all of this.

Patrick, I hope you will not get offended by this but you strike me as an individual who lies to himself and others in order to appear as though you are on a different intellectual level than the common masses. You remind me of those art-collectors who pay thousands of dollars for paintings made by a dolphin with a paintbrush in its mouth, masterpieces no doubt.

Your argument is flawed. By your reasoning, nothing can be termed or labeled as being bad and that established institutions and standards are subjective, which they are to an extent and ultimately that art can never be wrong or horrible. But to discredit learned scholars of music who can label all the instruments used in a musical piece if asked or who can replicate the legendary works of the past that can make a stonehearted killer cry is unjust. If someone were to call the works of Beethoven or Mozart as being bad, they would be ridiculed to the end of time, for there is even a mathematical structure to the their music and remarkably even plants grow better with their music playing in the background.

My point is that such great works can never be deemed horrendous but can they conflict with one’s tastes? Yes. But can that same person truthfully feel nauseated or inwardly loathe such marvels of human ingenuity? No unless they are insane.

This is not the case with Ayshay. Were one to play it with the hopes that their plants or babies would be physically and intellectually stimulated respectively, they would only meet disaster.

I have never respected Muslim ‘artists’ who try to appeal to Western audiences by coming up with something to do with Islam and imbuing it with trendy, modern ideas.

Like others have stated, Islam is singular, there are no if’s or buts and unlike other religions, it does not adapt to the changes of the world rather it’s followers adapt their lifestyles to fulfill its requirements. With this in mind, I have always been… dumbfounded for the lack of a better word, as to why this key defining feature of Islam is ignored or missed by the new generations but then I turn on the TV and see the likes of Lady Gaga and other parodies of real music and understand somewhat.

The very idea that this person wishes to modernize something she supposedly grew up with, which as in itself is contradictory to Islam as I have explained above, and attempts to show her love for it by releasing an abominable assault on the senses only so that drunken men and women can listen to it while grinding on one another is mind boggling.

I agree wholeheartedly with lulz in regards to his comment that some Kuwaities will defend anything with the ‘made in Kuwait’ stamp on it vigorously out of pride and desperation but most importantly, the hope that it will lead to something better. It is a sad thing to see when an country’s peoples cling onto hope so fervently only to be disappointed over and over.

Agree with you,
Irony is that, even though there is a lot of local talent, they never get such an attention like this crap does. Mark is doing a great job by posting real talents like this , but not everyone in kuwait reads blogs.

How am I lying to myself? Art is subjective and people have their opinions, isn’t that right? So apparently if I like something that most people dislike here, then I’m a fake? What do I achieve doing that? Internet popularity points?

And yes, she obviously makes music with “Western” music fans in mind, because that’s where she mainly operates. What’s wrong with that? That’s who her audience is.

I apologize if you find me fake or whatever, but I particularly enjoy this genre of music and it’s fine that you don’t, I get that you find it offensive that she’s using her religion in her music, I find it pleasing, beautiful and haunting. I’m done arguing my point of view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_music

I listen to a wide range of music including genres that she would easily fit into. However her performance is weak and is totally scattered. There is a line to be drawn in art not everything produced by man is art. Here is a pile of shit, let’s look at it and appreciate it. Put some sense in subjectivity. It’s screaming CRAP !

JACKSON POLLOCK (!!!!) is too … *burp*, *weei3*, *puke*….. “artsy fartsy” for you, lulz?! Jesus effing christ.

What’s the point of debating art/aesthetics/criticism with you if you think art from 1952 is too “fraudulent” or “nonsensical” or whatever the f**k adjective you’re attaching to it? if abstract expressionist art from GABIL SITTEEEN SINA emdodhik le haddaraja then how can we even discuss contemporary aesthetics? Is your problem with Fatima specifically? Or with, you know, non-ancient art in general? If it’s with Fatima specifically then, oh judgmental one, since you seem to speak and think in absolutes, do enlighten us on what’s “not crap” art and “not crap” music according to your non-elitist, highly valuable opinion..

@fatima- I mean salbk:

The saying there is nothing new under the sun comes to mind and since we learn from our history, I do not see why looking to the past is such an issue with you.

We need a point of reference, an anchor to relate back to in order to make a point do we not?

@Patrick:

Again I apologize Patrick if I offended you or if I am about to, I have yet to master the art of debating without sounding condescending.

Would it be fair to say that in comparison to Beethoven, her music is distasteful?

There is nothing wrong with making music aimed for the West, an entire city has been erected for that very reason.

There is nothing wrong with the genre of music you politely categorize Ayshay (an aptly named title if I say so myself) under.

I don’t think I’m offended per say, rather I just cannot fathom what goes on in the heads of individuals who use Islam as their starting point to get into people’s wallets.

It’s quite simple really, Islam should not be associated with anything or toucehd unless it is permitted to do so and only if it in addition, is in accordance with the ways of the Prophet (PBUH) also known as Sunnah.

I do not think I would have this much of an issue with this if the imagery of drunken strangers making out with one another with a bottle of vodka in one hand did not pop into my head.
Am I a fanatic for finding the utterance of Allah’s name in a club setting as being utterly wrong?

I wasn’t offended and you made some valid points.

Why would you compare Beethoven to her music? Would you compare Beethoven to the Beatles? Or Beethoven to Trent Reznor or Hans Zimmer? The comparisons don’t make sense. In style, image or message.

I understand your point of view about Islam, I don’t know a lot about the subject (how Islam can be used, and so on) and it’s a touchy subject that I wouldn’t want to get into. Personally, I don’t think she’s trying to offend the religion, I find the track to be beautiful to listen to and growing up in this region has helped me appreciate it more.

And this kind of music isn’t meant to be played in clubs. The remix maybe…

and, one last thing, all of you bank-employees who think you’re being “no-nonsense” or “real” or “salt of the earth” or whatever the hell…you’re just philistine bullies and if you had a real say in the world, there would be no art.

mind you, most of us here come from Kuwait, arguably one of the most culturally deprived places in the entire universe

I bet ur fatima’s #1 fan, right? and Ahmad is #2
Patrik would be #3
because from the comments I’ve just read above almost nobody likes this crap that u call art .

I liked the video and the artistic approach.

Not really understanding why Lulz and some others are spending so much time berating the artist by calling her work ‘crap’ and ‘artsy fartsy’. This is not criticism, it’s simply personal attack that shows among other things shallowness and inability to at least accept new forms of art.

At least she made the effort and produced something, and something quite beautiful while at it. What did they do other than sitting on their butts and vomiting out useless, nonconstructive criticism?

Ok, we get that you didn’t like it. You can now go back to listening to a7lam or katy perry or whoever artists you feel are compatible with your taste.

If Fatma is reading this, kudos to you. Keep up the nice work and don’t mind talkalots.

By the way, since when singing “Alsalam alaikom” is not allowed by religion? People shouldn’t really pull out religious rules out of their ..’imagination’.

She wants to get ppl’s attention in a cheap and freaky way!
That is not art ! That is Garbage. I would accept it at least if it has the freaky look, clear words & music!
Shame on u psycho!

mistishireeeeeen entow.

mark, like i said, when kuwaities come across something they don’t understand or is outside of their comfort zone, they usually have two reactions: 6naza (ridicule) or shar (see 90% of the comments above).

Yup, Pollock is too artsy fartsy for me too. lol what’s so disgusting about the term “artsy fartsy”? It’s a common expression, I didn’t make it up. What a delicate flower you are.

The point of debating thus far is twofold:

1) Her music is crappy and meaningless. Subjective opinion, yes, but there seems to be a general consensus regarding how awful it is judging by comments. You may think that art doesn’t have to be meaningful, but I’d say that’s about as genius and noteworthy as a bunny rabbit with a pancake on its head. Completely unremarkable.

2) Her music does not fit the description of having been influenced by “sacred songs of Islam”. This is an objective observation. I suspect, as many others do, that this is a cheap way of wooing foreigners who are completely oblivious to Islamic culture as it truly is. Repeat “assalamu alaikum” like a drunkard, “aaaahhh” in the background, rinse and repeat. Lady in a burka crawling out of a cape. Hands raised in a supplicating posture (making duaa). That’s not quite Islamic art. That’s the work of a con artist whose claim of reinterpreting “sacred songs of Islam” doesn’t stand to scrutiny. It only appeals to foreign hipsters who don’t know what they’re being sold.

How am I judgmental? By having an opinion and dissecting her work analytically? Well isn’t that convenient for you.

You want my personal opinion on what’s crap and what isn’t? Well, I’m a fan of Classical Arabic poetry. Like this: https://youtu.be/rCg0fHGNBWk

A beautiful, meaningful, heart softening, masterfully constructed poem sung by an equally beautiful voice. A complex work of literary genius, yet reasonably accessible to laymen with a working understanding of the language. A perfect representation of Islamic art. But that’s just my opinion.

This is performed by a talented Kuwaiti. Only in your skewed vision is Kuwait culturally progressing with something like this AyShay nonsense.

Who is this one monolithic rigid close-minded Kuwaiti you speak of? Surely not me. I tried to understand. You definitely couldn’t help me understand. I have nothing against this artist personally, just her work.

“Society knows perfectly well how to kill a man and has methods more subtle than death” (Andre Gide)

now who is doin the “6naza” about kuwaities while ur one of them, it goes right back at u mister! wow u have a lot of hate! it.tha7ik lol

The song is stupid and not art
I know art I’m an artist and fatma don’t use Islam With no taste And class
And there’s another stupid video on YouTube she took a lot of drugs

What’s funny about this is we went to school together and I knew her before she became this ‘respected’ famous artiste. She takes a lot after her mother, was always eccentric. Back when she drew stuff more influenced by anime she was awesome, then it all became this interpretative bullshit that I had trouble swallowing down as genuine, but hey that’s just me.

As for the track, it sounds like a cat trying to cough out a hairball while a cook is slamming dishes together in the kitchen. I also agree with previous comments about how apt the album title is. Ay Shay, it literally made me roll my eyes and whisper WHATEVER.

But if it floats your boat, more power to you. I personally don’t think it’s anything special, and calling it a work of art is stretching the definition of art. I can wail like a banshee to some funky beats too, that doesn’t take much talent or artistic flair. When she starts writing her own lyrics and sings them in a crystal clear voice, call me.

i really liked the original track. Yes there were a few things I would have done differently but I really didnt think much of the remix at all.

Seriously though guys – if you spent any time in a major metropolitan city in the ‘artsy fartsy’ zones and went to a lot of the underground stuff – you would HAVE to say that this is a spirited effort. This sort of music is MUCH more recognised than you might think and if its pretentious so what? Art and music are all about putting out whats on the inside so theres bound to be at least a little bit of pretention in the very act of being a performer. Anyways theres such a thing as music for the layman and music for the musician. Art and music sometimes are not so much about being pretty and uplifting or even – easy to interpret.

Besides I dont think ANYONE in Kuwait is a good judge of whats pretentious. Goodonya. And ‘eccentric’? Perhaps in a country that clamps down on music and art, glorifies wealth and profiteering, but not the value of equality fair treatment, eccentric is about as normal as you can get???

I’m not saying be conformist. I just don’t see much talent in this, but that’s just me.

Granted, the appreciation of music and art is very subjective varying from one individual to the next; what pleases me may not please you or other people, and vice versa. In my own opinion though, this is nothing special, neither the original nor the remix.

Just listened to the track & watched the vid. Great! What’s all the fuss about?

Freedom of expression I say…

Enjoy music for what it is. If you’re offended keep it to yourself and DON’T LISTEN!

i like a lot of music and art. but this one, i would say the people who like it are either intoxicated/stoned or have some weird taste in art that the majority (>99%) would never like

hahaha OMG kel hatha 7eqd ? or everyone of you guys is showing his talent by knowing every single thing in the whole world !! go write a novel about something will get you famous instead of being powerful here !! get a life babes

you go fatma ;*

Art is art, some will prefer ones over the others, personally, I like Picasso and Obey over da Vinci, I like John Lennon over McCartney, but doesn’t mean everyone does, I know most of us here don’t enjoy or really dislike it, but out there there maybe some people who finds it enjoyable, I don’t, but there’s no point fighting over it, what she’s making is art, doesn’t matter how annoying or le degoutant you find it, in some perceptions maybe odd is beautiful. Although, I dont agree with the ‘Islam’ or ‘Muslim’ tag in it, it certainly doesn’t have Islamic element in it.

WOW! Those are a lot of comments!
I heard she won at Cannes! So I googled her and this link popped up.
I wonder if you’ll be posting about her award 🙂

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