Groovimania Kuwait with Dj Richard Murray

Free Kuwait……

Liberate us from the repression.

All we need is legalized Alcohol and Kuwait would be a cooler place.

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ppl please dont try to reason with ka3ke…reasoning with him will only make his argument legit which it isnt…

just smile and wave…..smile and wave

LOL @ toni! Sounds like Vegas now… Am all for prohibition in Kuwait. Its not due to the religious sentiment ; alcohol should only be legalized when people in Kuwait realise the importance of responsible drinking! As of now we see people drinking under durress and yet act so friggin abnormal; whether they are nationals or expats, most of these people just cant handle their drinks! Ohh and not to forget the “3agads” in Kuwait. One shot of Absolute or some Tequila and we can see more of those 1/4 tonne pick up trucks making donuts anywhere in Kuwait~!

I’ll tell you why people drink in excess here – it’s obvious – because it’s so limited and ‘un-natural’ that people tend to over compensate their limits.

Example:

If you’re going to a party, you will probably have a few ‘extra’ drinks at home because you wont get another drop for the rest of the night – and you don’t want to lose your buzz mid way.

When people walk into a party here, they head straight for the bar and again, top up their drinks to the max -because they know it shortly be gone.

Regarding the initial introduction to Kuwait, there’s a simple solution.

Prison sentance for any drink drivers.

Yes, that’s if you have even a sip and get behind a wheel, none of this 5 ‘units’ limit nonsense.

No Wasta, no compromise, no problem.

Where would such parties take place?

"Legalizing alcohol doesn’t have to mean legalizing prostitution and cocaine." Mark your not even kuwaity? lol dont give ur oppinion on this.. u wanna party? go to ur country.

And yes it does.. Legalizing kuwait DOES MEAN increased number of prostitution, drunks, and more car accidents.

@ q80-biKer _|_

lets leave the alcohol debate aside and focus on this…..

How about night clubs? I bet you that would really put Kuwait on the map for being the only country in the whole world to have non-alcoholic night clubs! Now that’s a tourist attraction.

so sad i missed that! was it a private party?? ekh, wish i knew about it..

q8-shiter

LOL Thanks for your comments, but I’m Kuwaiti, and not going anywhere.

Now shut up, you little turd, before I put my foot in your dirty mouth.

@ q80-biKer THANK YOU

Mark you should of left this post for ur self. I bet you would never ever post rubbish stuff about llibanon,then why do it to q8..the place where ur living in..is that how u pay it back?!!!!

if u want alcohol just go back to where u come from..Kuwait does not welcome u oo ashkaalik

when reading ur blog..it seems that u enjoy creating conflects between q80s ..trying to make it another lebanon..u ran away from lebanon u have to stick to q8 rules otherwise ib 1600 salama

Excuse me, If alcohol get legalized here in Kuwait, allow me to carry my gun outside. so I have to shot them on their legs like I did on a drunken-a$$ abroad.

lol. there’s a dude in a dishdasha jumping up and down to the music, thats pretty cool.

Oh yeah and Kuwait should just learn to separate religion and government, they’re two separate entities and Kuwait will never move forward in the world if it stays the way it is now.

And stop with the “if you dont like it, leave it” bullshit.

“And yes it does.. Legalizing kuwait DOES MEAN increased number of prostitution, drunks, and more car accidents.”

Not necessarily.

I’m asking the same question as Explorer. Where?! :p

why don’t u go back to lebanon and drink and dance all night long and take ur friends who have the same desire with u because this is unacceptable here and u should respect that.

walla el kuwait e5trbat 7asafa !! AWAL ele e5rb6on eswon sh’3ilhom eb kil hedo’o oo ma7ad yadre 3anhom NOW achof ashkra oo chena ele ga3den eswona ohwa el 9a7 oo ele e7na ensweh 9ar ‘3ala6 !! :/

am not just talking abt 5amir oo 5arabe6 !

alla yastir 3ala our future !

Mark- Well said.

Who ever are saying you are muslim and want make a statment… did you religion teach you to swear and talk down to people? And to treat your servants like slaves? If we expants didnt stay here, you will still be living in a 3th world. So give back to the people who cares enough to give years of their lifes to work here.
I do also beleive a 16- 20 year old kid behind a hudge GMC is much more dangerous than someone with a few beers aboard.

If Bahrain can controll it, doz that mean Kuwait cant? Because you are ignorant? Affraid? Listen to doze more educated then yourself and learn…

Expat of 5 years…

if u were in america and u started urging the government to ban alcohol how do u think ppl there would react? its the other way around here yet still unacceptable isnt it enough that we had to bend our rules for embassies to provide alcohol for their ppl?

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Alcohol was legal in Kuwait until 1964. If someone wanted to drink, he/she’s drink. If someone didn’t, he/she wouldn’t! It’s as simple as that.

Why can’t that be done in the year 2009?!?! If alcohol was legalized, you either DON’T drink or DO drink. Don’t think about what others are doing! Just mind your own business!

if any one want to drink alcohol, drink it in your country not in Kuwait.
or you can book a ticket to Bahrain, it’s now 30 KD !!

Kuwaiti people don’t want to legalize the alcohol here.
you have all to respect our believes and our religion !!

AGALYA?…oo ham the minority(agaliya) in kuwait respect ISLAM…don’t even mention religion…Being a MUSLIM is the last reason for not allowing alcohol in this country…Kuwait is far from perfect the sooner u realize and admit it, the sooner we can solve problems..the longer we live in denail that kuwait is heaven on earth its gona get soo bad as we see now ..its full of corruption…Kuwaity people are ruining kuwait…no one else.. KUWAITIES no1 should respect each other thats a MUSLIM way of acting,..FOR example in kuwait, a kuwaiti driver would rather see me die than let me pass..true Muslim..A kuwaiti Muslim would actually hit ur car and leave( true story) speed away…TRUE acts of a muslim…SERIOUSLY this is two of the 10000 stories that happened…IM KUWAITI…

message to Mark,
First of all Kuwait is a Muslim country and we’re proud that we are clean and we don’t legalize alcohol or clubs and if u wouldn’t mind a mini amsterdam here and u want some alcoholic drinks and some prostitutes you can find it in your country LEBANON

Thats was for Chiefq8…..

mark … ur not getting the point
the thing is Alcohol is haram in islam..i guess u know that
kuwait is a muslim country..even though 1/2 of the kuwaities are muslims because they were born muslims and know nuthing about islam (allah yahdeehom) but still there is the other half…

and think of it this way…imagen it is legal…do u think they can control the age hh…and much more problems will rise

u wanna drink you can go to any other country do what ever u wanna do then come back to Kuwait

and its not just about alcohol…

u mentioned mixing gender in schools!!! come on imagen the situation!!!

it would be a disaster

we are in an ISLAMIC country..it’s not the sheikkh who says no alcohol or whatever..it is ALLAH

OMG that was a good JOKE HALF of kuwait are REAL muslims GO LOWER hmm…id say 30% are real Muslims…mo kilman ga9ar dishdsahta oo 6wal le7yeta ya3ny DAYEN

oh and A.f .. who said Kuwait is clean??
Unfortunatly Kuwait is not but why do we make matters worse ???

if you are living in Kuwait i guess u are aware of what will happen if alcohol is legalized !!

lil asaf il q8 kil malha oo binnazil 🙁

People have good morals despite of religion. We have all read the holy books of all three Abrahamic religions…alot
Of it is pretty disturbingly violent, racist, and immoral in modern developed standards.

if u are a kuwaiti thus an animal,do not generalise OK

again…more than 1/2 of kuwait do the pillers and are walking in the right path. the problem is that Kuwait is small with a huge population.so aqal shay happens seems huge…10 people drink, seems like 1000
thats wyh il bad image is showing

do u stand behind ur religion?? does ur family?? do ur friends??

and islam is not just about the five pillers…there are lots and lots but i mentioned the pillers as a response to what was said..

lets just leave this aside..

alcohol is forbiden in islam..and q8 is an islamic country if u and all people u know ar not muslims,Kuwait still is an islamic country therefor alcohol is forbidden .

where is that ???
which house
?

JUST say what kuwaities want to hear..again im kuwaiti…YES we’re perfect drugs and alcohol do not exist we live in LA LA land where flowers grow and people are friendly..we are so perfect….ILL GIVE valuable advice..seriously i wish alcohol was the problem here..I WISH!!!! ITS the people…I SAY leave THEM..don’t even talk to them..or u’ll go to a “Torture chamber” LOOL this is a first…Seriously today in 2009…there’s something called the law and something called court, REALITy torture chambers are long gone

af dont expect the others to stop hating on u if ur not so crazy about yourself either..shfeek 3alaina yuba we r good ppl mo a7san min hali ray7in fiha laish 6ayi7 min 3ain nafsik be proud ur a kuwaiti

WOw …I am amazed.. my comment is beeing sensured??? What is so wrong with saying what every one already knows. I have yet to meet one from the Sabah fam who dont drink.. if not in Kuwait.. but abroad.
The major part of society in Kuwait is filled with hypocrit’s hidding behind closed doors. girlfriends, boyfriends, prostitutes, alkohol, drugs, corruption it is ‘ALL” here. This is human nature…we need to be bad to be good…I wouldnt say Kuwaity are animals, that whould be quoting Sadam, but I will say you have an attitude problem.

*Reading this post with a glass of wine and laughing at ya all*

this debate is not going to legalize alcohol, nor is it going to stop people from drinking it illegally.

Guys what about Failaka, how about legalize it there. at least clubs
and Btw if there’s and future partys please invite me 😛

and I’m Kuwaiti BTW

People pooling in their comments on Religious wave length’s need to get a reality check! For the record: I am all for prohibition (yet again); but please dont come here ranting with saying This is an Islamic nation and thus Alcohol should be banned. There are many ‘believers’ on this forum who drink alcohol and enjoy their weekly or almost daily sundowner; it’s proving to be more of a stereotype, than facing the reality. Wasta or no Wasta, one can easily procure a bottle of “Jackson” (this makes me laugh my butt off) for a measly half kd, and get a rollicking good kick out of it, or you have Asian bootleggers pushing home made ‘drinkable ethanol’, followed by the expat population doing each other out by creating home made concoctions off their granny’s wine making old cook book, yet followed by top of the range bootleggers pushing JW’s to other brands. It’s not that hard to source your dose, so to speak, and the government knows that very well. Thus it wins their efforts of prohibiting alcohol yet allowing people to let their hair down on the sly – but all in check!!

“I wouldnt say Kuwaity are animals, that whould be quoting Sadam, but I will say you have an attitude problem.”

That has to be one of the silliest statements i have heard, so you claim they arent animals (thanks for that) but all have an attitude problem?? Is that not a really basic stereotype?? I am Kuwaiti, and i will agree to the fact that fine some Kuwaiti’s have an attitude problem and many other faults but dont forget so does every other country. If they didnt we wouldnt be in the world we live in today.

The fact that Kuwait wants to be a democratic country means that it should follow the rules of a democracy. Therefore expats have just as much say as the next Kuwaiti. I for one dont believe in the way most of the foreign workers are treat here, and dont appriciate being put in the same boat as those who treat these people like crap. Afterall without them i think Kuwait would be in alot of trouble.

And for those who keep saying”stop preaching this idea or that idea” themselves arent following those simple laws of democracy. Preach your thoughts but do so without insulting, that is a pretty simple rule to follow. On the matter of alcohol, in some ways i am glad it isnt legal and not because its haram, but because i think the day it becomes legal kuwait is going to go through a ‘rough patch’ and i think we have all been through enough ‘rough patches’ these past 6 months.

At the end of the day there are much bigger issues in Kuwait that need to be resolved then leglaizing alcohol or clubs. I can only hope that people still have belief that Kuwait can change for the better cos if that dies then it will never change (those who believe it is fine need to wake up)

In this video … I see 3agad!!

but dressed differently.

3agad is a universal word you know!

“to each his own”
ever heard of that?

enzain Mark wain hathea Groovimania ??

7 : Go fuck yourself and stop acting like you have the almighty power to kick people out of this county, everyone should have an opinion on a subject and the right to express the opinion but your disrespect is just a reflection of your stupidity and ignorance. Seriously stop power tripping thinking that just because your a local you can start talking shit to people who are in fact on a higher level than you both morally and intellectually. it’s people like you who give us a bad name. douche bag 😉

and this Groovimania thing looks cool haha

Why is it hard to believe this video was filmed in Kuwait?
After all, Kuwait has all the ingredients going for this type of thing to happen here : the exuberance of youth, some more youth and even more youth together with a barrel full of affluenza and wall to wall prohibition of anything remotely modern.

I am not all that surprised. Each weekend nite you have DJs flown in from across the world to entertain. If you have the right contacts Kuwait is the place to be.

SERIOUSLY, why isn’t ANYONE telling us where these parties are happening and HOW CAN WE GET IN!?!!??

croco rock i think ur bedon lol

AND AGAIN.. if your not kuwaity then STOP COMPLAINING.. it is not your country live with that… u want kuwait to become another dubai?.. then yeah.. Leave.

and when i say do they know about it..i don’t mean taking their permission..but just as an ondinary salfa..that u went to such N such place …

Speaking of Allowing/Not Allowing Alcohol in Kuwait.
Why don’t you guys show the advantages and disadvantages of your side of the argument when applied to Kuwait culture and people.

Put one thing in mind: Each country has its own set of rules/laws, culture, people, and point of views.

If you want something to happen/be applied to some country, you have to have a reasonable set of arguments to support your suggestion. You can’t simply say, I want this and I want that.

Don’t compare, think about the people of the country (and how they thing/p.of v.) and how your “suggestion” would impact them, whether negatively or positively.

“If you don’t like it leave to you Country”
“This is Kuwait and not your Country”
“You are Bedoun and not Kuwaiti”
“If you are not Kuwaity stop complaining”
“Its not your Country, Live with that”

God Bless Kuwait and The Al-Mighty Unique and one of its kind Super Kuwaiti !

waw .. I world record in comments here .

Mark .. If you or other commentors belive kuwait is a decomracy country then you should respect the law of NOT legalizing night clubs or bars and i am sure you respect that but the problem would be from people who dont know kuwait caltural and just arrived here like a week ago .

Malasiya , UAE , Qatar and Bahrain are Not Democracy countries .. Thats the diffrents .

I have asked about this party to one of my friend working in parliament . He told me we cant say that happend is in kuwait coz the video shows no proofs that this happend in kuwait . If you know kuwait ( and i am sure you do ) you would know also we have newspapers are ready to puplish anything like that .. remember this ?

https://www.alraimedia.com/Alrai/Article.aspx?Id=48791

where !!!! wain !!!!!

I agree with the argument that the lack of alkie is the reason why people here drink irresponsibly. I find myself craving for alcohol I’m out of Kuwait, I mean…as soon as the plane touches down. Which is pathetic, cause before I came to Kuwait, I never thought much about it. It’s always there…:(

But forget about the alcohol, the REAL QUESTION here, where was the party at?????

” We were actually known as a trendy, classy and very social society.” What is this ? To make a statement like that requires years and years of consistency. Lets not forget what Kuwait was like 60 years back.

Too busy at the moment to engage in any lengthy debate regarding this hooliganism taking place on our land, but brb, reporting to Sheikh Nabeel Al-Awadhi. Bearded men of virtue will descend upon you. Our reports will blot out the sun.

Party people insist on pushing their luck. I hope the good Sheikh mentions this in an article or on his show. Ridiculous that something like this should coincide with the tragic events of Gaza. While most people are praying Qunoot 5 times a day at the mosque, this is what others are doing. May God purge our land from this nonsense.

Realist Said: “” We were actually known as a trendy, classy and very social society.” What is this ? To make a statement like that requires years and years of consistency. Lets not forget what Kuwait was like 60 years back.”

The social part is still incredibly valid if you simply look at the architectural design of the houses back in the day. On the outside of the house was a bench like structure called a “de’ cha” which was pretty much a place to chill and watch people move around and just chill and watch people come and go.

As for trendy, just look at what started happening when the money came in.

Drinking does not, per se, make you a baad person. However, drink driving makes an outright monster out of you. In fact, drinking in moderation has health benefit read red wine which is shown to be good for the heart. What good is it if someone’s a teetotaler but all his life preaches hate, prejudice and racism against those who will go against the grain and rock the boat?! It’s a lost cause. At the end of the day it all boils down to choices : my home is my castle and what I choose to do sitting at home in the evenings is my prerogative no one else’s. But yes, we have to accept Kuwait is just not ready yet for any kind of daring social reform and experimentation. Change will come, slowly but surely!
So just live and let live, people!

The harms of alcohol far outweigh the benefits. You can research this yourself, but here’s a quick quote: “Drinking alcohol increases a person’s risk of developing several types of cancer and other chronic diseases, such as type 2 diabetes. Long-term alcohol use can lead to diseases of the central nervous system, cardiovascular system, digestive system, and reproductive system.”

So, how exactly is that going to “liberate” Kuwait, genius?

Well I am sending out my wish to the univers to make the ignorant heads of Kuwait realize that alkohol posses no treat to anyone. I beleive in the future and what started will not stop…you cant keep living in the past and as one said with your “head in the sand”.

One note for the record.. whats up with childrens safety in Kuwait, in the car wihtout child seat or the seat belt..Ever seen a flying 4 kilo object..? When you seat your child in your lap wile driving…you will crush your own child with your weight..or he will fly out the window…I guess you guys have to many of them so.. one more or less is ok…???!!!!

You have a lot to learn from the West.. but we also have a lot to learn from you.

I love how people talk about the increase in traffic accidents if they legalized drinks.

Seems like some people don’t know we already have one of the worst per capita accident ratios on the planet.

What does that tell you?

Filthy little Agaad will always be filthy little Agaad, with or without drink.

“That will never change without liberating the nation and giving people freedom of choice”. Yeah right, like legalizing alcohol will solve our problems. And you mock my logic…

Mark, why was my other comment deleted? It may have been a little bit explicit, but I had a valid point.

Cack E – I know you’re brain is probably the size of a small peanut, but “freedom of choice” is what makes life worth living.

You know, it isn’t all about haram and restrictions.

Some people should be able to partake in actions they choose. So long as it doesn’t affect you or the people around me – who the hell are you to tell us what we can and cannot do in life?

Ali, I think nobody knows if it’s in Kuwait, LOL !
But i think it’s actually in the new shaped tents, and as I can tell there is one in the free trade zone movinbic hotel for instance :! , or it’s in the desert like the one in the past years .

Cack E – It’s my choice what the hell I want to do in MY country.

Who the hell are you to tell me what I can or cannot do?

Unfortunately, it’s obvious that you feel Kuwait is perfect as it is.

It’s sad, closed minded individuals like yourself, who wont promote change that keeps Kuwait as the laughing stock of the region.

Take a look around at the image of Kuwait and Kuwaitis in the world. Have you ever bothered to ask foreigners what they think of us, or how we are perceived?

Or are you too arrogant to care?

Some of the things I’ve read on this thread are shameful, basically amounting to ‘GTFO’ if you don’t like it…….

yes alcohool is forbidden in Islam.

but i think the real problem is how that translated into the banning of any other cultural activities. where are the jazz concerts? or any kind of concerts? paint exhibitions? lectures? theatres? museums? even books? or anything that on which societies and civilizations are actually built!

Kuwait is a country of extremes: from one side you have the ultra-conservatives, deeply enclosed in their “traditions” and on the other side the orgy-goers/drunk/addicted/what have you. the real tragedy is the lack of a middle solution which in turn translates into frustration and a creative vacuum, into a country where sometimes the only way to meet a girl is to stalk her with your car until she stops or have an accident. this frustration is why you have such an “uncivilized” consumption of alcohool in kuwait. If it was legal, i would have invited you for a drink or two and showed how a cool social and cultural tool it is (without necessarily getting drunk and make a fool of yourself)

Kuwait has so much potential, and this is why expats criticize it so . it is a shame that Kuwaitis dont auto-criticize as much. a few weeks ago, i went to a classical concert organized by the Turkish Embassy (it had to be an embassy), and i was blown away by the music of a young Kuwaiti composer and i wondered how come i never heard of him before.

As soon as kuwait will go beyond consumerism into creation and creativity, alcohool will be the least of our problems

and no i’m not kuwaiti but i spoke my mind. Sue me.

Can you imagine this “debate” if alcohol was legalised?

I’m all for the right of expressing opinions, but when Kuwaitis are accused of hipocrasy by expats who break the law, I start to wonder. I’ve been in homes of European lawyers who openly break the law of the land here without a second thought! Until it’s legalised – it’s not right to do it. Whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant.

By all means have a debate, but the above isn’t one.

My favourite comment was 39 or 40:

” Listen to doze more educated then yourself and learn”.

A classic 🙂

Mark… please tell the Groovimania people not to post anymore videos if they want to keep enjoying their parties. Some of the comments here can be classified as “hate speech” in more civilized countries, and if you want them to have a good time tell them to keep a low profile, and out of trouble

Whatever happened to live and let live?

I Agree with Mathai here,

I don’t care that much about legalizing alcohol here or the clothes to wear. Kuwait has much bigger problems than that. What I do want is a little more freedom. Like Freedom of Speech. Isn’t it sad to see how people here warn each other what and what not to say in public? Or, that many of us here don’t seem to know how to agree to disagree.

Regarding the clothes, I’m quite happy, that as a foreigner I’m not forced to wear black in the summer (THAT is something I can’t bear…in this oppresing heat???). I have no problem to cover up my arms or knees. It’s not a biggy.

The main problem I have with not legalizing alcohol is not the alcohol itself. Cause frankly, if you don’t know how to have fun, a shot of vodca won’t help you either…you’re just going to be a drunk moron. But the basic idea behind it…as if we people here don’t have a brain to think and to decide our course of action. The devout moslems can choose not to drink, not to party. Forget alcohol…what about give us a choice and freedom in how we choose to educate ourselves? Why banning books that might actually help to give us another perspective? Why so afraid to open up? If we are sure about our own identity, a book that portrays a grimmy account of life here will not change a thing.

It’s not about democracy fellas…cause frankly, with democracy the majority wins. It’s liberty. Teach us to think and make decisions on our own. Has anyone here wonder, why…so many Middle Eastern women act so lost and confused in another country? And I realize now, if I was born and grew up here, I would be scared too to live with too much freedom. I wouldn’t know what to choose and decide if all my life I’ve been told what to do.

I love many things about Kuwait. I wish there would be more entertainment here…and to me, entertaining myself does not equal with drinking myself silly. In fact, I find drinking is more enjoyable with your close friends, in a quiet place…like your own house. Live music would be nice, a strictly alcohol- and moron-free club would be great, more organized events where people can mingle…and it doesn’t have to involve girls in skimpy outfit or alcohol either. Just something other than shopping and stuffing our faces with food. How about that? What about a 5-K run for a cause? I’m sure it’s not against the Islam teaching. Many things we can do to make Kuwait a better and more enjoyable place to live. Come to think of it, gluttony (as in excessive shopping and eating) IS against Islam teaching, no???

Guys .. there are no perfect country in this world, you will find different ups and down in every country .. its good to talk about it, but trust me i find no out come of it … its just a talk ….

so all the best … peace

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I’m thinking here…what is “abnormal”? What if, as angry Toni (lol) said, in western countries…they don’t allow women wearing hijab or abaya because they consider it “abnormal” too…?? We already have one angry westener here…who ask the Kuwaitis to stay the f-in *lol at her/him*

Q80Warlock… what the hell does Mark being non-Muslim or non-Kuwaiti have to do with anything?!!

You guys are demented and seriously ill. Please seek help for yourselves and your families who obviously raised you to become the ignorant, intolerant bigots that you are now!!

Seriously I’m beginning to miss pre-blogging days when people kept their nasty opinions to themselves!

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Religion is a waste of everyone’s time. There… I said it!!!

and Q80warlock,
you’re a complete moron to say the least.

Wow it seems my comment did hurt some douche bags feelings, khalas baba don’t worry I’ll take you back to the days of “Kid’s R’ Us” and buy you a He-Man action figure just to make you feel better.

Lol LOL….. diraf..good one.
Well this is the life behind closed doors in Kuwait.. all over the country.
I have a question for every Muslim that are against alcohol in kuwait, why isnt it forbidden to smoke sigarets or Shisha? This is harmful for the body as well? Or fastfood…?
The comment in regards of having the freedom to choose, this is the point.. why do muslim impose their rules on everyone? We had christian rulers in Norway as well… but we stopped forcing people150 years ago…
We controll the hours it is allowed to drink public and after what hour you can buy liquor in the shops. The coverment promotes healthy and moderate drinking habits.

My mother gave me a 6 pack of beer when I was 15 and told me to be careful with harder liqour…Of course I had to try it…but I always remember my mom advice. Of course not everyone has a cool mom like this..and you will find crazyness…but come on…life is crazy… would it be so harmfull to have a few liqour stores for doze who wants to enjoy a glass of wine with friends…Or is this only restricted to doze who can afford 40 -60 KD a bottle????
Or a pork section at the sultan center? Like Bahrain has… When you arabs came to Oslo…did we forbid you to open a Halal butcher shop? Or smoke shisha? No we eat your kebabs after we finish clubbing…and we really enjoy them…!!!
Life is a joy, embrace it all and be happy we like differnt things.

btw, comment 163 was directed at q80warlock aka…..moron.

This thread should be closed, you people should stop insulting each other.

Kids.

ga6wa who the hell do you think you are telling people what to do and how to act?!
If people want to go to a party they should be able to. PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO PARTY!
I bet your one of those losers who never EVER got invited to party in your life and you’re just jealouse that people are having a good time and your just missing out.

Yalla, continue downloading your mp3s’ and blast the volume in your and pretend your in a party like you’ve been doing all your life.

you probably do your students, sir! Stupid perv!

Flux

You’re a every poor person, I bet half of your brain cells died long ago that’s why you are acting like the hopeless retard in this place.

Ka3kee is right by Constitution Kuwait is not a secular state it, but how can you explain that to half of the child minded people here who barely understand their own society and I’m talking about the Kuwaitis, non-kuwaitis here will never understand because they have a different perspective on that matter.

ya3ni intay eli fahma kil shay?

all hail ga6wa, cyber slut of Kuwait that knows everything!

Agool, roo7ay shimiiiii zain!

i dont know what the big deal is…its simple really…Kuwait is a muslim country with a predetermined rules and laws….we’re not gonna change them to fit the party loving minority…to all the non-kuwaitis on this forum…all due respect, ur here to make a living..so either suck it up and respect the ways of this country that u have willingly chose to live in, or just go back to where ever u came from….a mid way suggestion: GO TO DUBAI =)

Ka3kee,

It is true, that Kuwait is an moslem country, and Islam’s law is the main source of legislation. The thing is, are we going to base the Islam’s law based on the Koran, or what the mullahs say? I’m sure you remember, the first thing that Allah said to our prophet was “READ”. I interpret that as LEARN. We have to learn and educate ourselves. Yet, how many parents here are guilty of bribing to get their kids to universities? We are not encouraged to develop critical minds here because most of the time, we are told what to do, afraid to say what’s in our minds, which is why most just resort to insults in arguments.

The problems I have with the “laws of Islam” is if they are based on the interpretation of the religious leaders. For example, polygamy. In Islam, a man is ALLOWED to have up to 4 wives. Yet, how many moslem men interpret it as HAVE to have more than just 1 wife? Forgetting that Allah ALLOWS men to have up to 4 wives so they could marry the war widows. Yet, how many men here who actually go to Palestine and look for a widow to marry? Oh no, they look for young virgins…is THAT really “islamic”???? Let’s not forget also, Allah also says to marry just ONE wife if you fear you can’t deal justly with women, and in another verse, men can never be just and fair with women. So what does that tell you actually?

Speaking of adultery, I do think that polygamy is much better than adultery. If a man is allowed to speak to his wife regarding his wish to take another wife (and let’s not forget, the wife can refuse it and divorce the husband by the way), he won’t have to sneak behind his wife’s back and get what he wants in the most outrageous and degrading way. Therefore, it is also mind-boggling when I discuss polygamy with a western woman, who thinks the idea of polygamy is so outrageous. Yet she knows that most of the married men (and women) in the States commit adultery. I’m not saying adultery doesn’t exist in Kuwait and therefore Kuwait is “better” and “special” 🙂 But I do believe the “concept” of polygamy is better than cheating and committing adultery.

Regarding the child marriage, I’m 100% against it. I have looked everywhere in the Koran to see the ruling of Allah regarding it. And found none (please, do help me if you know better). What I do find however, a child is of “the age of marriage” once they hit puberty. Which is true…a girl can get pregnant as soon as she hit puberty. But does that mean it’s okay for her parents to marry her off to some 50 year-old man? Allah didn’t say that in the Koran. Even IF it was ALLOWED, does it mean her parents HAVE to???

I chose to be a moslem because I believe in God as a moslem does. But I learnt to differentiate the “culture” and “tradition” from “religion”. For example, the chaddor…that’s tradition NOT religion.

on a second note, I’m also second betting Flux that ga6wa never got invited to a party in her life and is just jealous.

So…keep downloading them songs and shake it like you wish you can 😛

TweeZ :

Shoof 7atta ra3i il site ga3ed yeth7ak 3aleek, did I offend you or are you just Flux’s friend, a fellow retard rescues another stupid retard and becomes a joke. haha yal maskhara !

lol@Mark’s comment 184 ! rutheless !

GUYS GUYS GUYS … !!!! this is the 3rd time am asking …

WHY YOU GUYS OUT OF THE TOPIC ….
1- there is no booz in the clip, so stop talknig about it,
2- no one has abused any one in the clip … so stop it …
3- party is happening in kuwait every weekend, so why to have talk on it ….
4- people who love booz … love it … peopl who hate booz …. hate it …
5- you want booz in kuwait or dont need it … DONT TELL US! (well that is us not unite state hehehehe)

ENUFF !!! mark, please delete this blog.
and PEACE ….

suggestion, rather then talking about kuwait, where you have everything (by the grace of GOD) you should thank God, talk about GAZA … where they have nothing .. ey?

mark why r even replying on ga6wa`s comments !
dont waste valuble minutes on stupid kids like her .

thanx 4 the video btw

and ga6wa dont forget when u download ur songs to put Dagni Dagni Dagni lol i can imagine u dancing in ur room

mabuga ila ashkalich ya36oon rayhom

hey Ga6wa…..
GET THE “F” OUT!

please join all your cavemen friends in a blasting good time by downloading mp3s’ and shaking in your chair WISHING you were having a good time!

Wellay zaaaain!

Jolie_Gal:

Actually, I wouldn’t let a 50-year old man touch my 10-year old girl either, if I had one. Before any of you wise asses (not you Jolie_Gal) try to use this against me, read my previous comment.

And to that note…. no girl hits puberty at the age of 8.

Although some of them seem to be pretty f****in scarily hairy by the age of 3 !!!!

funny enough why none of the insulters eluded to my comment “192” is since they have no answer or that its easier to attack a foreigner or one from a another religion??

I want this converstion to be about HYPOCRACY…

if you are sure what it means and how it relates to the subject…well google it….and ask your friend/brother/neighbour what they do every weekend…
And if you can not get an answer, crash a challet on the week end…and you will see for yourself

@ mash

tabi el9ij yoba? El9ij yingal…..so please bare us.

either that or….you know the drill :p

@ d’fined

you know what, I think you’re very right. Well said.

it’s a new 248am record!!!

d’fined

we are NOT against drinking… each and evryone has a brain to think and knows what is right and wrong.

what we are against is in post #1,then again said by mark in post 5 …

to all those ppl
we dont care about what u drink or where you go,all we want is trying to make Kuwait a cleaner place

tazman

Oh know… you are so wrong..I dont think you all are alike, trust me I have some very nice friends as Kuwaity’s , my best friend is one. I am not directing my speech to them. I am more asking polite if I can please open some closed mind’s. And for some understanding.

?!?
Of course we understand that you cant legalizing it, it is to fast for Kuwait. We would have to start small. With a liqour shop where you need a permit for buying. And a better taxi system so we can avoid drinking and driving. Right now I wouldt trust a taxi driver, no meter no uniform. At this point is is madness…

If we only can be open about things… why hide… I did that when I was teenager… I think we are grown up enough to stand for our actions.

you see when I talk about hypocrisim, I do it eloquently….

Croco when you right about it all it shows is your IQ Level….

if there are “muslims” * such as those here in this blog

sorry had to put it between ” “

croco….

you see i am all for freedom, and if you read my post you will see we might be saying the same thing….

However your attitude is no diffrent then the many conservatives here. Since as you say freedom is a choice, so there is no respect to be earned by anybody, whether for or against….

The key is life is the approach, and i sadly see many people lack it….

i feel that drinks shudnt be allowed ppl get so viloent wid jus a lil bit ..!!
So v r all immigrants atleast most of us ..v shud b proud of q8 fer being so hospitable tu us ..n jus live wid a few rules ..duesnt harm ne 1..peace ya’ll !!

Ka3kee,

I know that drinking is strictly prohibited in Islam. But I also know, that the prayer of one who drinks is meaningless for the next 40 days. Which, using logic, can be interpreted, that Islam does acknowledge a moslem might drink, and s/he is not doomed for life. i.e drink at your own risk, you pay the price later. I take it the same way as polygamy, Islam recognizes that we, the immortals, might stray and rather than committing adultery, one can choose a more honorable way (kinda like the better of two evils) by having another wife.

However, I really have a strong feeling regarding child marriage. Would you please tell me the verse in Koran which says that one CAN marry if one has reached puberty. I have tried to look it up in Koran, but can’t find one verse regarding the ruling of child marriage (maybe I just don’t have the patience to keep looking). Of course, I know…if we base it on Hadith, our prophet Mohammed SAW did marry his last wife when she was just a kid. But…using my brain, I think…at that time, with life expectancy (please bear with me here hehehehe) is not as high as we have now, and maybe for people back then, 12 year-old was not a kid anymore.

But nowadays, little girls do reach puberty at 8-10 year-old. I just can’t bear to think…what if, one day…my sweet little girl asks me to marry her off because she’s reached puberty??? As a mother, of course my instinct is to say NO. Will I be wrong, as a moslem, to prevent my daughter from marrying at that age?

It might sound outrageous too, but I’m just using my logic here…from what you said, the ruling in child marriage (with the child’s consent) does sound better than child molestation that is running rampant everywhere in the world. But what does a kid know at that age anyway? And isn’t a ruling like that can be twisted by some sick people? For example, I have read many times about how the parents pressurized the kid to accept the proposal by a much older man, just because he’s a man of authority. That’s sick…Wouldn’t it better if the law actually PREVENT that from happening?

What’s your take on this one?

wow! … are you ppl still having discussions about leglaizing alcohol …??

@Toni,

No shit! You should try it sometimes 🙂

Ladies and Gents …

Time has come to say the truth, it was a clip uploaded here by Mark (originaly from yourtube) , and he did a big mistake … Because he never knew that this will end up with writing essays and personal experiences of commentors … and not forgetting abusive words and fights …

STICK TO THE TOPIC / SUBJECT … (banging head on wall)
Bottom line is Keep Kuwait Clean and Peace … Cheers mates ..

@ Sid

how did Mark make a “mistake? What that video represents is a reality that exists and is masked by hypocracy.

What’s really sad is that people condone the fact that it there are basic “rights” , even if they are “private rights” although there isn’t such a term in a modern civil society, that are being tormented!

@ Tweez

the mistake mark did was not the video..it was what he said in post # 5

@sid

..and thats why ppl shifted to alcohol instead of talking about the subject itself

*saying

you want to go to an Islamic country, then go to Saudi Arabia or Iran….PERIOD!

Second, I never ever said anything about drinking and quite frankly I think its a private matter and CHOICE….and GOD is the only one that will judge.

But excuse me, you can say whatever you want and whenever you want BUT you cannot tell people what to believe and how to act.

That, my friend, is my constitutional right as a Kuwaiti!

y go?? Kuwait IS and will always be an islamic country…those how hate this fact could go to Dubai or the west

second..i think i said ” you guyS ” (plural s)

third…i’m not telling people how to act,but when some1 here in my country,who knows it very well..knows the rules and law, asks for a mini amsterdam…am i supposed to sit and watch or just let it pass?? no sorry

mini amsterdam ?

https://www.plaatjesupload.nl/bekijken/1239499.html

well to your all information, we just had another great party…with great music and good people.. And I have a huge hang over…=)

Mark if you want the video let me know….=)

So if I go to a party….then I’m a Kafir?!

Tweez

I think you know ur self better…its not me who says whether ur kafir or muslim.Allah sub7ana is the one who judges.(the only one)

“…but there are people out there who wanna live their normal life (as muslims) we wanna raise our children in a kind of clean environment.”

Nice said!
‘…kind of clean environment’, does that refer to the trash people throw out of their cars after visiting MacDonalds?

Just a remark. Nothing to do with alcohol.

Is this comment nr. 250?

oh no Tweez…ur mistaken

actually there is a good /bad muslim

a simple eg. 3 persons…or lets say 3 muslims..one prays 5 times daily,the 2nd prays 3 times and just neglects the rest ..the last doesn’t pray at all because he’s just too bzy or lazy or whatever reason

do u see the differecne between those 3 ?

other thing..since u are a muslim u know that “الجنة درجات”
have you ever wondered why !

@ Sid

“…The devil wants only to cast among you enmity and hatred by means of strong drink and games of chance and to turn you from remembering Allah and from prayer. Will you then desist.” (5:90-91)

And now we’re back at the topic….

But still I think we shouldn’t throw our MacDonalds rubbish on the street. It shows no respect for food and our earth. Not even mention the fact that we have to live in this environment 😉

Tweez

i was trying to be polite with u and let you figure it out coz it was so obvious..but seems that ur dumb so i’ll answer ur question which was

“So if I go to a party….then I’m a Kafir?! ”

no ur not kafir but if u drink or dance with girls in ur party then u are a sinner .
now dose that answer your question?

Back to ur big term “scapegoat” and the lost point, I think that religion principle (whatever it is) is so straightforward: there are beliefs and acts or commandments, ie DO this and DON’T do that. So if u believe that ALLAH is the only God and Mohammed is the last prophet of God then u are muslim (belief part). However, if u do not follow what ALLAH and Mohammed said, then u r a sinner (action part).

This is so simple and to the point, which u know and for sure understand, however, u and all people like u try to make a big fuss and bring big words and terms to the discussion to look like smart people, while ur shallow.

U guys know all the facts coz they r simple and obvious, but deep inside, u don’t like it, so what is the best way to get around it?? it’s what ur doing now: pretend ur a philosophor and re-explain ur NEW Islam to the world.

btw, im not a student. In fact, I’m older than you think. I hope that did not puncture your little ego bubble. And if you think its a problem to sound or look “smart”, then my advice to you is to get a proper education.

Guess where I got mine? From a NON-SEGREGATED school! Guess it’s paying since you acknowledged the fact that I sound smart. I thank you and urge you to give it a try.

Al3ilm 3ebadah 😉

@ !?! and TaweeZ

from my small brain and to your inquiry on “so if I go to a party….then I’m a Kafir?!:

in Islam lissuning to music is HARAM, but ofcourse all lissuns to it, so its not being a kafir if you go to party, but you are already behaving like one. So, practically you become a kafir …

well thats all, now you both dont jumb on me with abusive language 🙂

coz i said it …. its my small brain says above, so peace.

@ Tweez and Sid

Hey, you both seem to me reasonable persons. Whenever you’re in Amsterdam, just gimme a call.

You’re right; people need to relax more. Don’t make a big deal of each small disagreement. Bottomline it’s all about respect between people. Whatever there religion or believes.

What do you think I’m doing now behind the screen? laughing 🙂

First of all, you are the one who brought the religion issue here, am I right??
aren’t you the one who asked “so if I go to a party….then I’m a Kafir?!”..I’m sorry if you meant something else!

second of all.. who are the people who “beat around the bush”.. and…”don’t have a point to prove” now?? you bring the question and then leave without an answer…

third of all: I’m not God to judge who is kafir and who is sinner, I was trying to explain to you what is religion and give you examples on when to be a kafir and when to be a sinner, because I was not sure if they had taught you that in the “NON-SEGREGATED school”, and it was not to tell you who are you.
At the same time, we all know what are 7aram and 7alal, everyone knows that, and that’s why when we do something wrong we try to hide it as much as we can, and from Islam we know what are the sins, that is why ALLAH and his messenger commanded us to ASK sinners to stop their actions and ENCOURAGE people to accomplish good deeds, so the conflict is not with you but with your proposed ideas and actions…

Fourth issue..I did not understand what is the meaning of “So were our parents and grandparents and a whole lot of other Kuwaitis “sinners” before the likes of you started coming out from their caves?”
Did you mean that our parents and grandparents were drinkers and went to parties to dance with women?? Is that what you think about your people and this is how you appreciate them?? I can assure you that they were more busy than you to look for such kind of entertainment, and they had more difficulties to obtain money to have it eventually spent over alcohol or women.
Moreover, sins and sinners were found since Adam and Eve, and they were better than us, don’t you agree; however, both of them did the famous sin and that’s why we are on Earth now. It has nothing to do with old generations and new generations..so can I come out of my cave to your dark modern life now:)…

Fifth issue: you reminded me of the old proverb: الايمان بالقلب . This is my 7th year in North America, and by the way I’m studying here in NON-SEGREGATED universities and hospitals; one lady told me that she “admires me because I stuck to my beliefs and ideas all the time and did not melt down just because I lived among them and worked with them”, I had good time with those people and by the end of that rotation we had a tea party, a NON-SEGREGATED tea party, at the hospital without dancing or alcohol which was OK because we are not doing something wrong and it was in front of peoples’ eyes, not in the darkness.
Another Christian French lady also told me about a lady who worked with her. She was Muslim from Morocco, but she was wearing revealing clothes, did not pray, and did not fast during Ramadan. My colleague told her one day: you are Muslim and I know that Muslims should not do what you’re doing and should do what you’re not doing. So the Muslim lady told her: Islam is in the heart!!! So I guess you don’t need someone like me to come from his SEGREGATED cave to tell you what muslims should do and what they sould not, coz even NON-MUSLIMS know.
Both you and Bin Ladin are two faces of one coin, which is “how to make Islam and Muslims appear in a bad way?” his extremism and your looseness are similar because both of you shifting away from the center point.

At the end, it was nice to write to you and answer your questions, although I was, and still, not sure if you really had a point! I also have to say that I have more important things to do rather than being dragged into pointless debates.

FYI…I learned in SEGREGATED schools and “Al3ilm” was also “3ebadah” :)…..so please “RELAX!”

third of all: I’m not God to judge who is kafir and who is sinner, I was trying to explain to you what is religion and give you examples on when to be a kafir and when to be a sinner, because I was not sure if they had taught you that in the “NON-SEGREGATED school”, and it was not to tell you who are you.
At the same time, we all know what are 7aram and 7alal, everyone knows that, and that’s why when we do something wrong we try to hide it as much as we can, and from Islam we know what are the sins, that is why ALLAH and his messenger commanded us to ASK sinners to stop their actions and ENCOURAGE people to accomplish good deeds, so the conflict is not with you but with your proposed ideas and actions…

Fifth issue: you reminded me of the old proverb: الايمان بالقلب . This is my 7th year in North America, and by the way I’m studying here in NON-SEGREGATED universities and hospitals; one lady told me that she “admires me because I stuck to my beliefs and ideas all the time and did not melt down just because I lived among them and worked with them”, I had good time with those people and by the end of that rotation we had a tea party, a NON-SEGREGATED tea party, at the hospital without dancing or alcohol which was OK because we are not doing something wrong and it was in front of peoples’ eyes, not in the darkness.
Another Christian French lady also told me about a lady who worked with her. She was Muslim from Morocco, but she was wearing revealing clothes, did not pray, and did not fast during Ramadan. My colleague told her one day: you are Muslim and I know that Muslims should not do what you’re doing and should do what you’re not doing

” Your comment is awaiting moderation. ”
and still is…thats why i had to cut them.

Can people stop with this bullshit!? I think I read about 1/4 before I got sick of this Go home Mark crap.
He is just as Kuwaiti as anyone else in here! He is entitled to his opinion! Why is it that a family thats moved to Canada for example can call themselves Canadian without anyone telling them that theyre not originally Canadian while here, in Kuwait, if anyone dares say something then straight away its get the f out you lebbo or paki or whatever!
Grow up! These people have been living in this country for pretty much their entire life, they’re Kuwaiti whether you like it or not.

To Tweez….some quotes for you to think about…7adeeth 1:

“I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, ‘Both legal and illegal things are evident but in between them there are doubtful (suspicious) things and most of the people have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from these suspicious things saves his religion and his honor. And whoever indulges in these suspicious things is like a shepherd who grazes (his animals) near the Hima (private pasture) of someone else and at any moment he is liable to get in it. (O people!) Beware! Every king has a Hima and the Hima of Allah on the earth is His illegal (forbidden) things.”..

7adeeth 2…
” I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “If Allah wants to do good to a person, He makes him comprehend the religion. I am just a distributor, but the grant is from Allah. (And remember) that this nation (true Muslims) will keep on following Allah’s teachings strictly and they will not be harmed by any one going on a different path till Allah’s order (Day of Judgment) is established.”

Salam

MR. TweeZ and MR. ?!?

Guys, now the matter is going of hand, only you both understanding what you guys taking about .. rest all just readin, and trying to understand,

WHAT IS THE TOPIC HERE, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE BANGING YOUR HEAD ON ??? i mean in simple English … WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE !!! you both are out of the topic …

… and NOW Ego has some in, and trying to convince each other that “I AM THE BEST, and KNOW MORE!”… ENOUGH! my mail box is getting piledup here man .. SPARE ME !!!

Mark, can you please remove me from this topic.

Guys no offence, but EENNUUFFFF !!! Grow UP!!!
(dint mean to hurt any one – Sorry)

like I said…ma3inda salfa!