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KOC in collaboration with K’s PATH

Just over a year ago I got an email from Dhari Al-Gharabally from the Kuwait Oil Company telling me about a problem they had with stray dogs in Ahmadi and how they wanted to deal with this issue in a humane manner without causing any harm to the dogs. I put him in touch with K’s PATH and since then they’ve been working together solving the stray dogs issue.

Earlier today KOC released a video detailing their relationship with K’s PATH and how they collaborated together on this problem that faced the residents of Ahmadi. All I can say is that I wish there were more companies in Kuwait like KOC and that I’m also really glad we have an organization like K’s PATH to take care of animals in Kuwait.

The video is in Arabic but at around 2:50 into the video John Peaveler the co-founder of K’s PATH comes in and talks in English. [YouTube]

40 replies on “KOC in collaboration with K’s PATH”

>telling me about a problem they had with stray >dogs in Ahmadi and how they wanted to deal with >this issue in a humane manner without causing any >harm to the dogs.

.30-06 Springfield.

This is the same KOC that has its logo plastered all over the park right in the centre of Ahmadi.

The park where there are wild animals kept in filthy cages, being fed Pringles and Snickers bars by visitors.

If they would ensure that these animals are treated in even a semi-humane way it would be nice…

I hope Mark doesn’t mind if I respond to these comments.

I’m not sure exactly to what Wilbur is alluding to, but I think the program might be better served if it was described by saying that KOC was looking for a humane animal control program wherein animals are treated with the compassion they deserve. KSPATH was ready and able to do this by implementing the methods used in progressive cities around the world with one notable exception, being that in many cases we were able to sterilize dogs and leave them under the observation of volunteer caretakers.

Andy, We at KSPATH are very pleased that KOC has undertaken to fund a humane animal control program and we are very excited to be working on a variety of issues together. As mentioned in the video, we are currently developing a plan to convert the Ahmadi wildlife park into a petting zoo and education center. I noticed yesterday KOC is installing solar panels on their street lamps. For me personally, I see plenty of problems everywhere, but I’m encouraged by many of the changes I see. -thanks!

John, please explain why you put cats/kittens to sleep (kill them) if they are not adopted? Surely you can just spay/neuter them and release them. That is my biggest criticism of your organization, and the reason why many times I prefer to take care of abandoned kittens on my own in the street, than hand them over to you for possible execution.

Yeni,

Happy to explain. First we must differentiate between feral (street) cats and domestic (pet) cats. The KSPAH shelter is an adoption center. As such, we only accept domesticated cats unless it is a sick, injured, or orphaned/helpless feral cat. Feral cats, as you say, should be sterilized and returned to their point of origin.

The current program with KOC is only addressing the dog population, but a new program will be launched in the spring that includes a cat sterilization program. However, we believe that any population control program should include an element of euthanasia where a compassionate death is the right thing to do. In a stray cat program, this most often applies to sick and injured cats.

In general I believe your inquiry refers to our orphaned kitten policy. We are too short staffed to provide the intensive care that orphaned kittens require. We therefore rely upon members of the community to provide that care prior to surrender. We then gladly accept fully weened kittens into our adoption program for medical and behavioral assessment.
I hope this helps.

Thanks for clearing this up John. I was under the impression that you cull cats when you run out space or when you think no one will want to adopt that animal. I don’t have a problem with compassionate euthanasia for medical purposes.

Please contact Mark to publicize when you start the cat sterilization program. Keep up the good work! We need more people like you around here, and less of the greedy bastards at IVH who care about money over the welfare of animals. Godspeed!

I can at least expect them to conduct medical procedures at cost (without profit) for feral cats. Even their own vets vehemently disagree with their cruel policy, and are banned from helping feral cats even when they are off duty. Sucks bigtime!

Very very easily. Ferals are thin, dirty, not microchiped, etc… Its clear as night and day. There might be 10% of the time when you really can’t tell, but that would not represent a big problem.

Also why would they ban their vets from helping ferals on their free time?

When I was at university in Canada my cat got very ill and needed surgery. I literally had only $200 in my bank account and the surgery was over $1,5000. The vet told me not to worry about it and covered all the expenses out of his pocket. Whenever I tried to thank him he would tell me, I’m not doing this for you, I’m doing it for the cat. A couple of months later I came back to him with the money and he wouldn’t accept it, but put it as a donation in my name to the SPCA

That’s what a private hospital with a heart does! Greed is never good, and God will never bless the money of the greedy.

Yeni: Majority of the time employees are not allowed to “freelance” after working hours since it hurts the business. If I could pay my vet half the price I usually pay I would and so would other people and then you have the vet taking away clients from the hospital.

It’s also not as easy to tell a street cat from a house cat like you’re saying. Majority of the cats are not chipped and most of the cats in my area are pretty over weight if anything so again how would they differentiate? What if your house cat is just skinny and dirty because you’re careless and don’t feed it or clean it… should your cat be given free health care because you don’t take care of it?

Secondly the example you gave of the vet paying with his own money, that’s an exception but you can’t expect it to be the rule since vets generally aren’t really that well off to be able to afford to pay for every procedures and operation of every cat that comes by.

There is a difference between freelancing and doing humanitarian work. A big difference! And again, it is very very very very very easy to tell the difference between a domestic and a feral, even if the feral is fat. Also all pets that have ever been to any vet at any point must by law be micro-chipped. This law came into effect 4 years ago. Heck I’ve even had to microchip feral cats that needed medical attention (I know this point actually goes more towards your argument).

Also I’m not asking IVH to pay out of their pocket. At least do it at cost. Other clinics (which are much shittier, and make less profits) such as Dohama already do that. They somehow manage to tell feral from domestic, and possibly do get scammed sometimes, but they still do it.

How can you tell if someone at a soup kitchen is really homeless? Should all soup kitchens just stop helping people?

As a marketing man I’m sure you are well aware of how CSR is extremely important to a company’s image, and does ultimately help its bottom line. So yes they are a business, but that doesn’t preclude them doing some good on the side.

Yeni I am not going to get into an argument over this since IVH doesn’t belong to me but I just want to say that I have a dog and I am really grateful to have an animal hospital like IVH here in Kuwait.

I’ve been taking my dog there ever since he was a puppy (thats around 6 years so far) and all the vets and staff have been very friendly and caring to my dog. The place is amazing, very clean with lots of greenery and the vets are great.

On that point you are 1000000% correct. I wouldn’t dream of taking my cat anywhere other than IVH. Best facilities, best vets, and best care by far.

I just wish they give something back to the animal community. Two of the vets who work there complained at length about that when I brought up this topic. If they are willing to give up their time, effort, and fees, I don’t see why IVH can’t just help ferals at cost.

I agree Yeni. For example, why have a rescue van parked (and regularly washed) in front of your animal hospital if you aren’t going to use it to help hurt/inhured animals? I was one of the thousands of people in Kuwait to donate money towards the IVH “animal rescue and shelter” back in the day. Where did my money go?

I’m also a patron of IVH and BIG fan of all their wonderful vets and groomers, but wish the managment would do more for the community (CSR if you want to call it that). It is a management/owner decision – not up to their staff.

For example, the race horses at Ahmadi race track were killed quite inhumanely and dumped directly in front of IVH – RIGHT across the road. Race horse carcasses were in eyesight of IVH for YEARS and they never raised a red flag. Prime example of how they could have (but chose not to) get involved in their community.

I get paid for my job too, but if someone in the community needs my services and I can help, I feel a moral obligation to do something.

AGREE Desert girl… I also wonder what they van is for. As far as I understood from the meeting with father and son of IVH it was more of a prestige than anything. Italien doctores and high end service. Well my philipino Vet perform a better neuter to my cats then they do.

Donations?? Animal Shelter?? What the fuck!!! This is fraud, plain and simple. They have absolutely no rescue service or animal shelter. So not only greedy bastards, but also thieving lying bastards. What a shame!

I can not agree more with Yeni.

I also had this discussion with the owner and manager of IVH few weeks ago. Complaining about their greed. I presented serveral solutions to them, but they did not care. As far as I see it they only have itent to provied this exlusive vet service to the high end of kuwait.
Funny part I do consider myself high end.. but I guess his end is to high for me.

I also run a smal animal shelter in my house on my own expense, and the Vets has been helping me as much as they can undercover. 2xray on one sheet etc. Now 2 of the best vets has finally left and I am happy for them. Because the policy IVH works for has nothing to do with animal care. Pure prestige and I need a business of my own.

For the record they talked so much shit about K’spath and this project I wanted to vomit. Me beeing a volenteer I see with my own eyes how much they care and I did dont beleive a word they said. All what I do see is that all the people that work to help animals in kuwait is constantly fighting each other not agreeing to the core of the cause. Either it mean we have to humainly put them to sleep, or send them abroad. Kuwait has a big problem and we need help either way.

One thing is for sure I stopped going to IVH, I am sure I am not missed because the manager did not even know who I am and thats after hundreds of visits and 1000 KD in vet bills, over a period 3 years.

Have you tried Royal Animal Hospital? Are they any good? Do they actually care about animals or only money?

Also please elaborate on why IVH are talking shit about Kpath? That’s just staggering callousness beyond belief!

Yeni- Royal Animal Hospital is a gem. I have witnessed numerous attempts to save and help animals out of their own pockets. Dr. Jill is one of the most compassionate Vets Kuwait has ever seen. x

Thanks for this info. I will check them out soon. I would rather give my money to those who care about animals, and try to make a difference.

Well what was said, was that K’spath got 15000 KD and all what they did was killing the dogs. This is the roumer I keep hearing, so I am very happy for this discussion. Because it is outraging that no one seem to get along.
But based upon my talk with the owner it is very clear they have no consideration for rescue work, or others doing rescue work. Because what was said at the top, it is easy to see if a cat is rescue or bought from a breeder. I have brought in maybe over 15 cats all skinny and sick.. and nothing was offered other than what the vets where able to do under the table. Ones we brought in a Pomerian with broken front legs, and the poor guy had no money. We had to open a FB group to collect over 400 KD. And the legs was binded togheter with wire for 2 months, because IVH did not have the plates needed.

This is beyond me.

we can open a resue/adopt center instead of IVH.. amazing facility for this purpose. I will talk to the goverment to sponsor us.

There is a cat in that live near my house that got some kind of a tumor under the neck and it can barely move….can someone tell me what to do?

Try calling 6700-1622 . However be warned they might just euthanize it. They might also ask you to take it to them all the way in south wafra right at the Saudi border. If you are willing to pay a bit of money try taking it to Dohama clinic at the Friday market. Best of luck to you and the kitty. :'(

Step 1 : Catch dogs and cats
Step 2 : Sell & ship them to china
Step 3 : Profit

Chinese will make food out of them and we make money out of them . so its a win win situation dont you think ?:D

Step 1: Catch you
Step 2: Sell & Ship you to Papua New Guinea
Step 3: Cleaning out the gene pool

They will probably eat you, and we make money. Win win indeed.

Instead of talking about who’s good and who’s bad… I admire the people who do something about it instead of just arguing. Opening your home as a shelter for instance is absolutely commendable. Someone like me, who can not do such a rewarding project, all I can do is donate.

K’s Path “sponsor a pet” program is wonderful. If you can’t help the animals yourself, help pay the pros. to do it. 30 KD a month to sponsor a dog/cat (Even less for other small pets). To most of people here in Kuwait 30 KD is a payment for lunch in MAKI !!!!! For the same amount you can help an animal eat, shower, and be taken care of for a whole month!!

To the others who can not pay such an amount, you can tell other people about the program and spread the word. Suggest that people check out the shelter for buying a pet instead of breeders and pet shops (or the godforsaken FRIDAY MARKET) Getting other people to adopt and sponsor a pet is almost as good as doing it yourself. Every little thing can help.

I also try every chance I get to thank the people of K’s Path for such an amazing job. I’ve recently visited there facility and adopted a dog from them. I love the place, I love the people, I love the dogs!!! Well done people… well done!!

Side note: DR.JILL IS AMAZING, I have recommended her for all my friends… also Dr.Angelo from IVH is a wonderful loving man who takes such good care of my dog every time we go.

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