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How many people aren’t wearing a mask in this picture?

This a fun little game, how many people can you spot in the photo above not wearing a mask? If you want a clearer picture click here.

If you want to know how many I found, I’ve circled them on this picture.

Dear Avenues,

I pass by once or twice a week and although the majority of people are adhering to the rules and wearing a mask, I’ve noticed a lot of people who aren’t or wearing them under their chin. People who are “exercising” and people who are eating/drinking tend to be the ones mostly abusing the rules, but I’ve also seen a lot of people who I guess simply just don’t want to wear a mask. If you make sure everyone wears a mask I’d spend more time shopping instead of running in to grab something and then running back out. I’m sure its the same with other people. More time spent = more money spent. So forget about the health benefits, its a financial benefit for you to make sure people wear masks.

Thank you
– mark

77 replies on “How many people aren’t wearing a mask in this picture?”

So not so many? Apart from your paranoia, from my visits to the Avenues I would say 90% are wearing a mask, which is pretty good.

lol what? are you daft? 10% not wearing masks isn’t a good thing, not sure how you figured it is, maybe you think this is a school test where 90% means A-. 100% of people are meant to wear a mask, period, this won’t work if some people wear masks and some don’t.

So you think going in and out quickly twice a week, vs spending more time inside, reduces risk. But you think he’s ‘daft’ because he think that a high (vs universal) mask compliance reduces risk. Mark the Karen.

Sorry but you aren’t making any sense. 100% people wearing the mask is better then 90% wearing the mask how do you not see that? Also, where did I say spending more time inside the mall reduces risk? Read the post again and get back to me 👌🏻

100% of people wearing mask is better than 90%. But your reply was saying that its binary. Either 100% wear mask or it won’t work. As to where you said spending less time inside the mall reduces risk, you said “If you make sure everyone wears a mask I’d spend more time shopping instead of running in to grab something and then running back out.”

my response wasn’t binary, again you’re misreading what i’m writing or maybe my writing isn’t clear enough. I said for this to work everyone should wear it because if some people aren’t wearing masks, other people are going be like if he’s not wearing it I’m not wearing it.

Regarding the second part, although that’s not what my post stated, i understand how you interpreted it and I still disagree with you. Which is safer, 5 minutes in an elevator with a guy not wearing a mask? or 7 minutes in an elevator with a guy wearing a mask?

The use of mask is to prevent a person from infecting someone from getting the virus. Hence, a single percent of not wearing a mask is useless and can infect the remaining 99%. Imagine with 10% whos not wearing a mask. That is A LOT. I agree with mark here.

Oh come on no need to call me names everytime my opinion doesn’t match yours. Of course 100% is better than 90%. My comment though was about compliance, and people are doing pretty good in following the law.

Lol! No – not even close. If it’s 99% instead of 100%, we already failed. Those few people could infect people around them wearing masks. Many people tend to take a “break” from the mask and rest the mask on their chin, again defeating the purpose entirely. Some people do it right of-course, but a majority of the people I see out and about don’t seem to have enough self-awareness to realize how little they adhere to the guidelines.

sorta kinda compliance is Kuwaiti compliance.

Which is why no one gives a fuck about the rules or society.

And if they do it’s sorta kinda. Fuck off with you lazy-ass ignorant useless attitude.

Pretty good. Even one person having the virus and not wearing the mask is enough to take down others who in turn transmit to more people. Get real. This is not something to be pretty good at. Wear a mask or stay home and yes Binary for our sakes!

also all the women in niqab. that doesnt count as a mask. and that’s way too many people in one space. they should limit the number of people in the mall or even in specific phases.

I believe its a mix of both. Is a Niqab better than nothing? Probably yes. Is it as effective or better than a mask? Highly doubt it

yea and corona can get right through that niqab fabric. it doesnt protect anyone if the person behind the niqab has the virus.

its much lighter than a bandana and not as layered. It’s better than nothing of course but not by much. they’re supposed to wear masks under the niqab but I doubt they do.

Avenues can do a much better job to limit the spread of the virus and stay open.

The fact that they are closing Friday market due to not adhering to social distancing yet again Kuwait are taking side on Big Business showing their ironic hypocrisy.

Aaah I walked past you on Friday in Avenues (think you were wearing a beige tee) and my mask was off because I was drinking my lemonade. My bro mentioned you were staring at me as you walked past and I was like fuck he’s gonna make a post on it and here we are lmao.

Was my first visit to a mall and never again. Far too many people and like you mentioned people like me having to take their mask off to drink/eat stuff. Maybe eating/drinking should not be permitted in the mall but idk how that would fly

oh shit hahaha i think that was me cuz I was wearing a mustard colored t-shirt Friday lol

I was thinking the same, about not allowing drinking and eating in the mall because Avenues are basically contradicting themselves, wear masks, but also you can eat and drink. how does that work?

A couple of shops I went to (Boots, Miniso & Footlocker) have a no drinks policy. All the Starbucks cups were put aside at the entrance.

@ Mark,
This is a game of Where`s Waldo, only in this pic Waldo is everywhere.

Well, I for one including my whole family and even some friends, we keep away from malls, especially Avenues. And for this reason only, irresponsible people and unconcerned management, when it comes to people safety of course I`m sure they care about the money.

There`s a law on wearing the mask in public, with punishments, however, no one seems to be bothered about it, citizens or authorities.

Avenues management are basically helping spreading the virus, they should limit the number of ppl in the mall and EPA police or what the hell they are called they need to fine ppl not wearing masks.

Thanks, Mark. I thought that was a very even, well-tempered way of pointing this out.

And that’s just the ones visible in this part of the mall, and just the ones facing the camera. For most of the ones I see not wearing a mask, they are being protected by their mask of entitlement.

65%. That was percentage of new cases that were Kuwaiti every day. Well…before they removed the nationality statistic.

Hopefully the airports open soon so they can all flee their country for the rest of the summer.

July 26 – Nationality statistic was there today – Kuwaitis way more….like they have been every day for about 3 weeks, at least.

Ayman Mat FB page has a daily post about number of new cases, new recoveries, totals of each, ICU cases, and by Kuwait vs non-Kuwaiti.

I see the same chart as on their Twitter feed, but neither has the nationality data that it had a couple of weeks ago. Am I missing something?

How should Avenues enforce the mask use during a patrons entire time inside their public venue?

If you decide to be out in a public space you have to assume risk of contracting an airborne illness, with corona being one of those illnesses. Even with full mask use compliance, I’m sure it is still not 100% …. same as most other protocols available to keep ourselves safe from disease, it only mitigates the risk.

How to enforce? Easy.

1) Have mall staff tell people to cover their faces

2) Get more of those super market volunteer people who sit at the door except have them roam around the mall telling people to cover their faces

3) Put up more signs saying wear a fucking mask

4) Stores should refuse service to customers with no masks on

I just got back from the Kuwait Flour Mill, all three people in front of me in line weren’t wearing masks. Two had the chin strap and one had no mask at all. That’s unfair to the employee who should be empowered to refuse service to people not following health guidelines.

Why not have the Police or Environmental Police roaming around the mall and handing over fines to everyone not willing to wear a mask? They`ll only apply the law, same as for curfew violators etc..
But I believe that will hurt the businesses, so better no…

Kuwait’s solution will be to lock Mahboula back up if the patrons of the Avenues don’t get their act together!!! That’ll learn ‘em!

I think that’s the right idea. I think the issue is, when the Filipino guest worker at Claire’s tells the Kuwaiti mommy her and her precious kids can’t come in until they put their masks on, and Kuwaiti swagger-daddy rolls in behind and barrels past with no mask on…which KUWAITI will be there to back her up?

Just like COVID, entitlement spreads. When mask wearing is not enforced with one group, another will take it as a sign that it doesn’t really apply to them, either.

The Avenues is a like a daycare for the Real Housewives of Kuwait. No one is going to tell these women in their Gucci flip-flops to put on a mask and risk them not spending a few hundred Dinar in their store. It’s cheaper to buy a new Filipina clerk than lose that one customer.

A friend of mine working in Ikea requested a customer to wear his mask, instead he laughed and pointed at his mask hanging on his elbow and said “Don’t worry, I have mask”.

I see them coming through security masked up. 10 paces forward mark goes to neck. At the entrance of shops ..lady requests ” put your masks on please!” Mask goes up, they enter. 5 paces forward, mask goes down to neck. Ikea is a nightmare. Squashed and no sign of social distancing. Best to stay away…or nip in and out if you have to go.

Trouble is it’s no use people wearing a mask if it isn’t a three ply disposable or a N95 respirator mask. I worry all the time about wearing a mask to protect others from myself whereas people around me don’t seem to be bothered very much about reciprocating my concern for their health. As a rule of thumb I no longer say hey! to anyone not wearing a mask or wearing it the wrong way.
Why should it be so difficult for people to understand that the risk of transmission goes down to 97% when both the parties are masked ?

As for face shields we need to see more and more people take to wearing them over and above the mask especially when out grocery shopping.
Too bad they cannot reverse engineer retractable roofs and sky ceilings to let in natural sunlight and ventilation at least, for some part of the Avenues.

Standard is a vague term. It has got to be a three ply mask whether disposable or fabric based one.
Agreed on N95.

Common sense tells us wearing any mask is better than wearing no mask at all but wearing the wrong kind of mask can lead to a false sense of security and actually do harm.

Sorry but you aren’t disagreeing with me, you’re disagreeing with the recommendation of scientific community, the doctors, WHO and the CDC. So unless you’re an elite scientist living in Kuwait that we don’t know about, please stop talking.

“You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink”. I read your attached, it was linked in a previous comment you made. Being dismissive of results based on “a study, not a directive” ignores the “science”.

Nobody is dismissing science, you simply incorrectly mistated the article was by CDC and I corrected you and then pointed you to the correct one.

I guess, what’s your point? If you read the “Discussion” section, they clearly state the data for respiratory etiquette is inconclusive and more directed research is needed. That’s par for the course for any study based on meta-analysis. Cherry picking data out of the methodology section of a scholarly article is like leaning on Wikipedia for your dissertation.

I think we’re early enough into this that we can think of wearing masks like some think of prayer (a concept I’m sure a couple of people in this country are familiar with). Do either conclusively work? Maybe, maybe not. Can it hurt to do them? Probably not.

I think the real point here is, if you make a law and don’t enforce it…it’s not a law.

I think those smoking booths should be used for when people need to eat and/or drink, otherwise why is everyone walking around with their masks on their chins drinking their beverages? Save it for your car ride home at least! Also, too many times I’ve seen people touching their masks which can also lead to infection. Speaking of which, about a month ago when I visited Lulu Salmiya, I saw a woman leave outside, remove her mask and start rub her face with her gloved hand like crazy! It was like she was trying on purpose to get infected, because who would do such a thing?

my drive home from work takes me past the avenues.. you dont want to see the traffic jam that was there this afternoon around 4:20. People are going to work but have time to go to the mall and spread the disease. Second wave here we come.

When I read this portion of your post….”this afternoon around 4:20.”, I realized how much I miss 420!!!!!!!!

While I’m generalizing, fact is people only respond to two things – fatwas and fines. Not guidelines, not the law, not their elders, not common sense. So the only way to get to compliance is 1) issue an edict 2) draft a law backed by a fine and have enforcers all around. Fine stores that don’t report blatant violators and that’ll give the poor Filipino a chance against the arrogant types.

Live and let live ppl. You’d isn’t a flu where you get back from it. People are dying in real time in Kuwait. Wear a clean 3-ply mask as dutifully as you remembered to wear your clothes and carry your wallet. It’s 2kd for a 50 pack at TSC!

The fact is, covid 19, is a new virus which will probably stay here from now on, same as many others. If you wait for the time there will be 0 cases I think will dissapoint you. This won’t happen. Sooner or later all of us will have it. We cannot stay locked inside our houses or avoid people. We have to find the way how to live with it. For “non wearing masks” people.. its a choice. You wanna wear mask, wear it. You wanna stay home, stay. Everyone has a choice. This idea of controlling people must go away. I know there are wars on the internet, everyone has different opinion but lets be reasonable. Don’t panic.

In that case can I also say fuck the speed limit? I don’t like being controlled and if I want to drive fast I should be able to. Don’t like it? Don’t drive fast, you can also stay home. Red lights? Fuck those as well cuz nobody tells me when to stop. You can stop at them if you want or stay home. Everyone has a choice and you’re right this idea of controlling people must go away.

I’m guessing you’re the kinda person that’s against wearing seatbelts right? Anti vaccinations as well maybe?

GTFO with your american attitude,asking everyone to wear a mask is not controlling people, there is no govt agenda to it. it is not a choice when its the law here.

Hold on, champ. This attitude is the world over. Here in Kuwait, too. The majority of the COVID-related rule breakers in Kuwait have been Kuwaiti. The majority of the people in this picture not wearing masks are Kuwaiti. The majority of the people I saw at Avenues yesterday not wearing masks were Kuwaiti. Seems to me a lot of Kuwaitis want to be like Americans.

This is pure human selfishness, plain and simple. Majority of Americans agree with mask wearing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ktla.com/news/nationworld/poll-3-in-4-americans-back-requirements-to-wear-masks-majority-of-republicans-show-support/amp/

I’d say majority of ALL nationalities agree with it.

“We have to find the way how to live with it”.

Yeah. And we have. By wearing a mask when shopping in a mall. Don’t like wearing one? Fine. Stay at home and you won’t have to.

The management at the Avenues must really get their skin in the game if they are to avoid being ‘part contributory’ to a second wave of cases.
Getting people to wear masks and gloves is one thing but provisioning for safe disposal of used gloves and masks is just as important.
Ideally, for a mall this size they should be open only 5 days a week with one day off for fumigation and disinfection, and one day post that to render it safe for staff and customers to return

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